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November 27, 2008, 05:57 PM
#1
Laetus
how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
i just found those two-hand sword unit useless.they allways lose their combet to everyone at their level.
Zweihander units are wounderful in crusade campaign.but in ss(RC&RR),they just go back to 1.02 ages
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November 28, 2008, 04:18 AM
#2
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
They are flanking/anti-cavalry offensive infantry.
Don't use paper against scissors.
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November 28, 2008, 05:32 AM
#3
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
Also, if you are just using the version of RC that comes with SS, there is a new version out since then. 2H weapons in general have been beefed up, for example Zweihander:
type Zweihander
dictionary Zweihander ; Zwei Hander, lp
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Zweihander, 60, 0, 1.5
officer northern_captain
officer northern_captain_early_flag
officer northern_captain_early_flag
mount_effect horse +1, camel +1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw
formation 1.2, 0, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 10, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 45, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 7, 7, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 8
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 13, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 6
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 3, 1000, 225, 90, 70, 775, 4, 170
armour_ug_levels 3, 4, 4, 6
armour_ug_models Zweihander, Zweihander_ug1, Zweihander_ug1, Zweihander_ug1
ownership hre
era 2 hre
recruit_priority_offset 25
Note updated areas in bold. Main 2H improvements are more attack, much better charge, improved effect versus cav and increased mass to reduce vulnerability to cav charges and to break enemy formations better. Balance is definitely improved.
Last edited by Point Blank; November 28, 2008 at 05:45 AM.
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November 28, 2008, 06:02 AM
#4
Laetus
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
I think they should be better,just like in crusades campaign.They should be better against most infantries
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November 29, 2008, 01:15 PM
#5
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
They are when they charge. Charge, withdraw and charge again. Or hit them in the flanks. I don't think a unit of Zweihanders should be able to hold their own against a unit of comparable sword/mace and shield infantry.
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November 30, 2008, 12:38 PM
#6
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
A two-handed sword is way cool (I have a replica
) but inherently inferior to a sword/shield combination. You have to block and attack with the same instrument, and can't do both at the same time.
That much said, I find 2H units in the game satisfactory, although they do suffer substantial losses if engaged in a frontal melee.
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November 30, 2008, 01:26 PM
#7
Re: how should i use my Zweihander units in RC???
I wish they had AP like the Kingdoms campaign but that might be op..
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