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    This is an open opinion thread. What do you think is the best way to solve genocide in any country? Options can range from doing nothing to arming every man woman and child with a handgun, rifle and 50 rounds.


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    Let one group die out.

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    Well,,, There are several things that can solve genocide.
    1: tolerance, why dont we accept each other as we are and stop the hate against each other.
    2: Human Migration, get all the different tribes seperated and let each tribe/race live together, so that they do not need to face each other.(this can cause a war though)
    3: Let one race die out so only 1 is left so there can not be any genocide anymore.
    4: recreate borders, like in africa, redo the borders so that the initial tribes get their own country instead of being devided among several.

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    Assassinate every warlord who dares to call for the death of another group.

    If another takes his place, kill him too. Repeat until no one is willing to take up the banner of genocide.
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    Hire the guys from Army of 2 + The above comment = No genocides, even the insects will be too scared

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    Assassinate every warlord who dares to call for the death of another group.

    If another takes his place, kill him too. Repeat until no one is willing to take up the banner of genocide.
    What if the assassin join the banner??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiertz View Post
    4: recreate borders, like in africa, redo the borders so that the initial tribes get their own country instead of being devided among several.
    this really could do wonders, however the tribal nature of lot of these places, where it is necessary, might end up putting the newly formed countries in a round of survival of the fittest. in order to make sure everything stays the way its intended it would have to be watched closely by developed nations and some of the weaker nations might need a push in the right direction.

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    Assassins don't have to be people

    they can also be missiles
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    Assassins don't have to be people

    they can also be missiles
    So, who is going to launch the missle??

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    Skynet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiertz View Post
    Skynet!
    I would rather give Commies the missle instead Skynet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I would rather give Commies the missle instead Skynet!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman View Post
    You rang?
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    Tell our governments to stop supporting genocidal tyrants.

    We gave Pinochet, Saddam, and Idi Amin the crucial support they needed to carry out their killings. Hell, even US Standard Oil was the #1 supplier of fuel to Hitler and his concentration camps.

    So, do the right thing and send your congressman a letter to stop killing African kids.


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    first of all we have to learn what genocide means
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogukan View Post
    first of all we have to learn what genocide means
    The crime of genocide is defined in international law in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.




    "Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:


    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.



    Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
    (a) Genocide;
    (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
    (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
    (d) Attempt to commit genocide;
    (e) Complicity in genocide.

    http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutge.../whatisit.html


    The 8 Stages of Genocide


    Classification
    Symbolization
    Dehumanization
    Organization
    Polarization
    Preparation
    Extermination
    Denial


    http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutge...fgenocide.html

    Current Countries at Risk

    Countries at Risk of Genocide Politicide or Killing 2008

    http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/..._Risk_2008.pdf


    IAGS Press Release: Genocide Scholars Association Officially Recognizes Assyrian, Greek Genocides

    Issuing Organization: International Association of Genocide Scholars
    Date: December 16, 2007

    The International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) has voted overwhelmingly to recognize the genocides inflicted on Assyrian and Greek populations of the Ottoman Empire between 1914 and 1923.
    The resolution passed with the support of over eighty percent of IAGS members who voted

    WHEREAS the denial of genocide is widely recognized as the final stage of genocide, enshrining impunity for the perpetrators of genocide, and demonstrably paving the way for future genocides;

    WHEREAS the Ottoman genocide against minority populations during and following the First World War is usually depicted as a genocide against Armenians alone, with little recognition of the qualitatively similar genocides against other Christian minorities of the Ottoman Empire;

    BE IT RESOLVED that it is the conviction of the International Association of Genocide Scholars that the Ottoman campaign against Christian minorities of the Empire between 1914 and 1923 constituted a genocide against Armenians, Assyrians, and Pontian and Anatolian Greeks.

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Association calls upon the government of Turkey to acknowledge the genocides against these populations, to issue a formal apology, and to take prompt and meaningful steps toward restitution
    http://www.genocidescholars.org/iagsnews.html


    Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, language, or any other status. We are all equally entitled to our human rights without discrimination. These rights are all interrelated, interdependent and indivisible.


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    Turkey is 13th...Dogukan my friend...

    i think you learn now what genocide means ...


    The International Campaign to End Genocide

    1.5 million Armenians. 3 million Ukrainians. 6 million Jews. 250,000 Gypsies. 6 million Slavs. 25 million Russians. 25 million Chinese. 1 million Ibos. 1.5 million Bengalis. 200,000 Guatemalans. 1.7 million Cambodians. 500,000 Indonesians. 200,000 East Timorese. 250,000 Burundians. 500,000 Ugandans. 2 million Sudanese. 800,000 Rwandans. 2 million North Koreans.



    Genocides and other mass murders killed more people in the twentieth century than all the wars combined.

    �Never again� has turned into �Again and again.� Again and again, the response to genocide has been too little and too late.

    During the Armenian genocide and the Holocaust, the world�s response was denial. In 1994, while 800,000 Tutsis died in Rwanda, State Department lawyers debated whether it was �genocide�, and the U.N. Security Council withdrew U.N. peacekeeping troops who could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
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    gram crackers for everyone.



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    Well, since no country will ball up and provide an adequate ground force, the only practical solution would be to set up Iraq-style no fly zones over the minority group. It may only prove marginally effective, but local/minority armies could have a much better change fighting off the government/genocidal forces if they did not have to worry about an air force, and it would be easier to convince a country to sent some fighter aircraft as opposed to ground troops.

    Of course, that only works if the two groups are relatively separated and not mixed together.

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    An omnipotent UN with a council specifically meant for the betterment of the Human race. They would be the highest council in the UN.

    I'm reminded of that saying "force is the midwife of progress" when I think of 1950s America when National Guardsmen had to keep the unruly whites from beating black students..

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