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    Default 7.0 is much more difficult now

    I'm playing SPQR 7.0 now, and I feel it's much more difficult now. I wonder if it is necessary for me to conquer Greece before I forward to Africa of Carthage.......Because in order to defend my economy in Italy, I have to raise 3 mighty navy, and it costs too much.

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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    yes it is a bit more difficult as 6.4 becous carthage puts up a good fight for sicilia as well now. maybe you could try to invade greece first but i am not sure this is a good idea becous in order to get the marius reforms you need to destroy carthage.
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    I only want to conquer the southern cities of Greek pennisula, and I march there only for money. Once I have conquered there, I will fight against Charthage again.

    And I find that no other faction want to make a cease fire pact with me in 7.0......

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    I would suggest waiting on your mighty navy, seems like a waste to me. Your economy only gets hit so bad from pirates. You cant build enough ships of quality to defeat carthage early in the game.

    I suggest securing Italy, shore up your borders with Gaul and start planning on taking the islands of carthage and sicilia. Then I suggest Taking out Gaul in Iberia, and then Carthage and africa itself. You can try greece if you like they are rish but you WILL get sucked into a war you really cant afford while taking out Carthage.
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    If you want to invade greec your aim could be to destroy the greeks and conquer there provinces. Afterwards the Macedonias should not attack you, but the greeks would do ( agressive faction)


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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    first make a good defence for your northern border(2 legions) and then attack carthage with all you have(but perhaps leave 1 legion in reserve on italian soil.

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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    ha
    Thanks for your advice.
    Infact, I placed 5 legions on my northern border to fight against Gaul and Germans.
    In Italia, I left 2 legions, one in the north and another the south.
    I brought 3 legions to Greece, but one of them was immediately defeated by the Spartans...... However, now I have conquered 3 cities(Athens, Colins and Sparta) and have 2 legions left.
    At the same time, I'm now trying to recruit 3 more legions in Sicily, in order to fight Carthage in Africa.
    P.S In all, I have 4 navies now. 3 for defence and 1 for transporting.

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    why did you need 5 legions in the north? because i always manage to hold off those barbarians with only 2.

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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    Quote Originally Posted by cnaeus View Post
    why did you need 5 legions in the north? because i always manage to hold off those barbarians with only 2.

    cnaeus,
    only 2? i have 4 legions up north.
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    sOUNDS like your using a money cheat, without enough provinces you can only raise so many before you no longer gain denarii.
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    i use only 2. but their is actually just at the time at the border. i always have one that is on its way to the nearest city with good enough barracks to get retrained and when it returns the other one will leave to get retrained.

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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    and what if thy attack you with 4 armies?
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    then i'll fortify the one at the border and hope a can hold them of long enough for the other to come back and then let each legion destroy 2 armies.

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    I didn't use any money cheat.
    By the time I conquered those 3 cities on Greek Pennisula, I have enough money for them.
    Normally I could have nearly 10000 denair each turn now.

    Because I'm not a good fighter, so I need 5 legions.....
    Even sometimes I need more, because I often failed in battle field...........

    You may notice that I have lost my first legion immediately when I have just landed on the Greek Pennisula......... 555555555

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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    I use 3 legions at the moment...gaul might send full stack armies but those are pretty weak most times...one for each path across the river are enough at the moment+the one near Genua watches the small open space in the west...even if one gets defeated the other 2 are always in reach...2 others are waiting for the invasion of Sicilia but I don't have the money for more at the moment

    Just one quick question: There's a bridge right below Mediolanum and my legion is standing right behind it on my side...is it possible that the garrison script takes that proximity as a sign to get active?...I'm not sure if gaul just shoves armies in and out of the city all the time but it got me thinking...wouldn't be too good if I "gave" them armies all the time without noticing

    EDIT: just one other thing cnaeus brought up already: Is it possible to get a ceasefire with any faction at all?...in the previous version I had at least Germania and the Greeks as trading partners at the beginning but now noone's gonna accept it even if I have never been aggressive in any way against the faction...do I have to buy them?
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    hehehe good luck with that if it might happen.
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    haha, glad to see those spartans fighting you ^^

    how does it feel to lose a legion?

    i think SPQR TW is one of the only mods where you will run into situations like this

    i have had another awkward (sp?) situation.. you'll read about it later on in my AAR
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    I also se 3 legions in the north to hold Gaul at bay. One little tip if you produce many legions lets say 5 up north Gaul wont even attack you until it makes more men than you. the AI calculates your stength so its possible to keep peace by brute force. Similar to Rome. lol

    Right Now I am massing for Iberia, I AM worried as My Fleet may get sunk I plan 4-5 legions plus extra siege support. Thats alot of ships and since I only do one ship per legion they can get sunk by pirates etc. I hope all of them make it. lol

    I took sicilia with ease I guess they pulled out, I was hoping for a good fight but just sieges with the garrison script and some extras left over on the island and that was it. :-( Its nice to fight with this New system, I get no lag at all anymore anywhere.
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    thy pulled out of sicilia? my god thy are sending me armie afther armie. thy ship them over from carthage. i destroyed 4 armies already lol and thy are sending more, i need to get garrison so i can use my other 2 legions that are guarding the 2 city' s that i took.
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    Default Re: 7.0 is much more difficult now

    What other provinces do you own? Maybe that has an effect? i OWN SICILIA now and it was disappointing. lol
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