I hate the barbarians!!!!!

[siege king]

I dont understand y ppl seem to like the barbarians. They have small unit rosters and can only go to tier 3 buildings. The only barbarian faction that i will even play as are the germans because they have one of the best rosters in the game. Am i just missing something about barbarians? Maybe i just play as them wrong but they r really boring. I just cant seem to see the point as playing as them. Can any one tell me how to enjoy them?

[Scutarii]

Barbarians are poorly represented in RTW (don't have much depth). I never found them particularly exciting either. My solution would be to get a mod...

[siege king]

I have been thinking of downloading a mod that would make them less awful. So far ive tried EB but it keeps the 3 tier building system and it is way to cluttered for me. Anyone have suggestions for a good barbarian mod?

[Scutarii]

I have been thinking of downloading a mod that would make them less awful. So far ive tried EB but it keeps the 3 tier building system and it is way to cluttered for me. Anyone have suggestions for a good barbarian mod?

Er..... No it doesn't; Barbarians have a 4th building tree in EB, if I'm not mistaken. And they even have a 5th Barracks level (barracks level in EB is not tied to Government levels).

My personal favourite is XGM, all the barbarians nations are much improved, but EB is probably the one that most overhauls them. I wouldn't really use SPQR or RS for barbarians, they're not particularly well represented. SPQR is extremely romano-centric, and while RS is as well, they also have fun rosters for some other factions, like Carthage, Cimmerian Bosphorans, the Getai, and a couple of others. I find their Greeks to be lacking as well, if only in the realism department... But RS 2.0 will a shoe-in, it looks fantastic so far.

[siege king]

Er..... No it doesn't; Barbarians have a 4th building tree in EB, if I'm not mistaken. And they even have a 5th Barracks level (barracks level in EB is not tied to Government levels).

Oh sorry lol. I went back to check and u r right. All of the government types and the other added things in EB really confused me though. I also couldnt understand the building tree in EB . Plus, I also couldnt understand the way the barracks worked because the A.I. could build their home barracks anywhere whille i could only build the regional ones in everywhere but my homeland. The thing that really turned me off of EB though, was the extemely long load times. I dont want to spend 10 mins waiting to do one battle. I just decided to give up on EB.

[Nikos]

Er..... No it doesn't; Barbarians have a 4th building tree in EB, if I'm not mistaken. And they even have a 5th Barracks level (barracks level in EB is not tied to Government levels).

My personal favourite is XGM, all the barbarians nations are much improved, but EB is probably the one that most overhauls them. I wouldn't really use SPQR or RS for barbarians, they're not particularly well represented. SPQR is extremely romano-centric, and while RS is as well, they also have fun rosters for some other factions, like Carthage, Cimmerian Bosphorans, the Getai, and a couple of others. I find their Greeks to be lacking as well, if only in the realism department... But RS 2.0 will a shoe-in, it looks fantastic so far.

Did you see the RS 2 previews though? I don't think the Hellenes or Barbarians are lacking anymore!

[Scutarii]

Did you see the RS 2 previews though? I don't think the Hellenes or Barbarians are lacking anymore!

Which is what I said... RS 1.5's barbs are nothing compared to RS2's.

[Yojimbo]

Barbarians are poorly represented in RTW (don't have much depth). I never found them particularly exciting either. My solution would be to get a mod...

Germania is alot of fun tho with their axes phalanxes berserkers and screeching women. But yes barbarians are annoying in rtw they are too weak.

[Al Merko]

Try XGM, it is focused on enhancing Greek factions but barbarians have better rosters and buildings too.

[siege king]

Ok thanks Al Merko. I have heard that XGM is good but i didnt know that it changed the barbarians much. I thought it was just vanilla but focused on Greece.

[century x]

Its also alot of fun to play as the barbarians in the SPQR mod.

[siege king]

umm Century x i thought that SPQR was almost exclusivly focused on the romans. Or have i mixed it up with another mod?

[Barry]

Maybe Roma Surrectum but that is also an extremely good mod.

[century x]

umm Century x i thought that SPQR was almost exclusivly focused on the romans. Or have i mixed it up with another mod?

No your right it does focus on the romans but it is alot of fun to play as the barbarians.

Maybe Roma Surrectum but that is also an extremely good mod.

It is of high quality been playing it for a long time now.

[Alkarin]

Maybe Roma Surrectum but that is also an extremely good mod.

roma surrectum for sure!

[decimator22]

The mod that most focuses on barbarians, is EB . The best Roman mod in my opinion is RS. The best greek mod is XGM. RTR is like a balanced thing for most.

[Roman_Wolf]

i find RTR most enjoyable. and the gauls seem pretty fun. i would try that if i were you

[Entropy Judge]

They have small unit rosters and can only go to tier 3 buildings.

Therefore, it's easy to tell which units are good and which are useless, and it's easy to get to the top tier and start churning out your good units (Foresters, Chosen units, Berserkers). Barbarians are very much suited for blitzing and not so much for the long haul, while the civilized factions are much better at the long haul while still capable of blitzing.

Maybe i just play as them wrong but they r really boring. I just cant seem to see the point as playing as them. Can any one tell me how to enjoy them?

Can I tell you how to enjoy them? No. Enjoyment is a personal thing; however, if you let the civilized factions grow (ie, Rome), you're going to get one of two things: dead, or Heroic victories. While with the civilized factions, you can win by upgrading your cities and throwing top-tier units at a problem until it disappears (and you generally have the money to do that), Barbarian factions require skill and delicacy. Pound for pound, they don't have the sheer power the civilized factions do, so you have to play as dirty as you can get - send spies into Macedon to spread the plague to rival factions, spam assassins so you don't have to deal with enemy FMs, train Screeching units to lower enemy morale and boost your own ... trying to outmuscle a civilized faction, especially on the harder difficulties, will get you killed, so you have to attack them early, when you have your top units and they don't, or else you have to be good enough at battling to counteract their better unit stats.

[siege king]

Entropy Judge i understand wat u mean about attcking early with barbarians. I have played all of the factions on VH/VH and conquered the whole map as every faction. I just hate how they have so little variety. I dont like to spam one unit type because then it just feels boring commanding the same kind of unit over and over again. With the civilized factions u can make many different kinds of armies. And btw when u say that chosen r good do u mean the swordsman or the archers? Because the swordsman r really weak compared to other factions while the archers arent half bad.

[Sextus Molestus]

I have played all of the factions on VH/VH and conquered the whole map as every faction.

Wow, impressive (not sarcastically at all, really). I tried the Britons on M/M and I epic-phailed, lol.

Anyway, I agree, I find barbarian factions boring, for the same reasons you do (only 3 tiers). Can't stand the repetition. (Sorry I don't have any contributions for ye, I don't play any mods)