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Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
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Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
Interesting so far.
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Miles
Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
Good debate. The think about the line-item veto is that it would really not be needed if congress didn't have so much money. Less money = Less pork. Remove the income tax and abolish deficit spending and remove all the other stupid taxes, replace them with an across the board no exceptions tariff on imports and problem solved.
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Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
I agree with the money part completely. The pure tariff on imports is way way too protectionist though. USA thrives because of trade -- this would kill it. Think Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.Originally Posted by Twfan55
Praefectus
Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
There would still be pork.
And as of now we still need money, we have debt to pay off.
Across the board income taxes work fine, along with some taxes on gas to pay for the roads.Remove the income tax and abolish deficit spending and remove all the other stupid taxes, replace them with an across the board no exceptions tariff on imports and problem solved.
What do you mean by "abolish deficit spending"?
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Miles
Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
Stop spending a boatload on unnecessary welfare programs, also, there already is a federal tax on gasoline for roads.
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies.
Ron Paul
Praefectus
Re: Line-Item Veto [Viking Prince vs Justice and Mercy] Commentary Thread.
Of course.
But keep the line-item veto.
I know, which is how it should be (though I doubt the current tax is truly paying entirely for roads).also, there already is a federal tax on gasoline for roads.
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