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    WASHINGTON, Nov 21: Muslim organisations across the United States have rejected Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al Zawahiri’s threatening rhetoric and racist slur contained in a newly released video, pointing out that the terrorist group does not speak for Muslims in this country or worldwide.

    “We condemn these racist slurs in the strongest possible terms, unequivocally reject Al Qaeda’s philosophy, and reaffirm our opposition to all forms of bigotry, intolerance and racism,” said the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections.

    “As Muslims and as Americans, we will never let terrorist groups or terror leaders falsely claim to represent us or our faith,” the Council on American-Islamic Relations said.

    The two organisations represent dozens of Muslim American groups with branches across North America.

    “We join many other Muslim organisations in rejecting Al Zawahiri’s rhetoric,” said the AMT. “As a coalition that strongly supports and works for civil rights, we find his statement particularly offensive.”

    The group insisted that Muslims in America and across the world were “perfectly capable” of speaking for ourselves and were offended by Al Qaeda’s temerity to speak on their behalf.

    “We see Senator Barack Obama’s victory as moment of redemption in which our nation has risen to new majestic heights. And so do majority of the Muslims worldwide,” the statement said.

    “Zawahiri has insulted all of us by mocking President-elect Barack Obama, former secretary of state Colin Powell and the current Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. His ugly rhetoric reveals his total ignorance, especially about Secretary Powell’s courageous denunciation of Islamophobia.”

    The group noted that Islam rejected racism in all its manifestations and sought to build communities around values of shared humanity and inherent dignity of the human individual.

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations said: “The legitimate grievances of Muslims in many areas of the world can never serve as an excuse or a justification for attacks on civilian populations. We once again repudiate Al Qaeda’s actions, rhetoric and worldview and re-state our condemnation of all forms of terrorism and religious extremism.”

    CAIR took particular offence to Al Zawahiri’s use of the offensive term “house Negro” in reference to President-elect Obama. “Islam rejects racism and seeks universal peace and brotherhood. We repudiate any and all use of racial slurs or insults.”
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    So you're saying all Muslims are evil?
    But mark me well; Religion is my name;
    An angel once: but now a fury grown,
    Too often talked of, but too little known.

    -Jonathan Swift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Skinna View Post
    So you're saying all Muslims are evil?
    Huh?

    I'm saying the American Muslims denounced Al-Qaeda again and denounced the comments made.
    “The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”

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    Well you didn't say anything actually. And seeing as how the raging conservative you are, you must be denouncing Muslims as evil.

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    I should've just put a to denote the cheekiness of my dry-humor joke.
    But mark me well; Religion is my name;
    An angel once: but now a fury grown,
    Too often talked of, but too little known.

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    Just another taqiya; Cair and AQ are playing the good old good cop, bad cop game. Or maybe Barack Husein Obama is shia heretic for them as he was praised and supported by Iranian mullahs, hezbollah and HAMAS.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco Borealis View Post
    Just another taqiya; Cair and AQ are playing the good old good cop, bad cop game. Or maybe Barack Husein Obama is shia heretic for them as he was praised and supported by Iranian mullahs, hezbollah and HAMAS.
    Yes, ing Muslims. They must never be trusted. The next thing you know they are in control of your country. Oh wait, Sultan Obama is already in power. So suck on that sucka!!!

    Islam rocks! Yee haw!


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    So Al Queda called him a ''Hood ''? Isn't that a good thing?
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    They called him a "house slave" for the whites.
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    Don't lie, fake article. Muslims don't condemn terrorism, they are silent therefore condone it. Arrghh....Muslims.

    This is commonplace every time a terrorist's talk or attack or whatever happens, Muslim organisations denounce them. When they aren't happening they are trying to beat the stereotype.

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    It's good to see muslims speaking out against terrorists, that's all I can say.

    But one thing I still can't wrap my head around....

    “We see Senator Barack Obama’s victory as moment of redemption in which our nation has risen to new majestic heights. And so do majority of the Muslims worldwide,”
    Why? Obama's a Christian (supposedly).....and he wants to increase operations against the Taliban......Of course he wants a timetable of withdrawal from Iraq, but what new President wouldn't...same with Guantanamo being closed.....it's common sense. Do they think he's going to turn against the Saudis or something?...(yeah right)

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    The fact he's a Christian is irrelevant to international Islamic opinion, and international Muslim opinion largely turned against the Taliban ages ago. Guantanamo bay and Iraq are the source and symbols of the Muslim view of Americas 'attack' on them, so their end is seen as favourable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    The fact he's a Christian is irrelevant to international Islamic opinion, and international Muslim opinion largely turned against the Taliban ages ago. Guantanamo bay and Iraq are the source and symbols of the Muslim view of Americas 'attack' on them, so their end is seen as favourable.
    Any democrat President-elect would promise the same, wouldn't they? It's time for such moves...it's not some Obama brilliance, it's as obvious as hell..I have a feeling it's because of his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco Borealis View Post
    as he was praised and supported by Iranian mullahs, hezbollah and HAMAS.
    HAMAS isn't Shia

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    I have a feeling it's because of his name.
    You may have a point there , but its not the full story.
    They see that Americas’ chosen a "softer" foreign policy than that of the past eight years, which everyone could be more thankful for (not just Muslims).

    Plus I want to add that all Muslims are evil and deserve a painful death

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    Quote Originally Posted by karahan View Post
    Plus I want to add that all Muslims are evil and deserve a painful death
    Not sure about that, but they're all going to have painful eternities

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    The fact he's a Christian is irrelevant to international Islamic opinion, and international Muslim opinion largely turned against the Taliban ages ago. Guantanamo bay and Iraq are the source and symbols of the Muslim view of Americas 'attack' on them,
    Guantanamo Bay?

    Quite strange that, considering that most muslim led countries in the world from Pakistan to Saudi and Syria are virtual police states, where citizens/political opponents/suspects are routinely imprisoned for years without trial or proper evidence and frequently tortured.

    You'd think they'd turn there opinion against these abuses closer to home first or does it only matter when its "infidels" doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    Guantanamo Bay?

    Quite strange that, considering that most muslim led countries in the world from Pakistan to Saudi and Syria are virtual police states, where citizens/political opponents/suspects are routinely imprisoned for years without trial or proper evidence and frequently tortured.

    You'd think they'd turn there opinion against these abuses closer to home first or does it only matter when its "infidels" doing it.
    Oh they most certainly do hate their own countries governments too, and you've discovered the root of the problem.

    The irony is the only real opposition in a lot of these states are Islamists and other extremist groups, thus if anything your average Muslim who lives in the ME police state sees his own evil government [which is supported by the USA, because they play ball] then is brainwashed and influenced by extremists and radicals to believe it is therefore the USA which keeps their oppressors in power who are to blame.

    Then they see the USA invading 'muslim' states and 'kidnapping' Muslims and they think "USA supports our governments actions, and mimics them, therefore US is evil".

    You'll also find in Bin Laden's manifesto, he plans to take down every Muslim state, he hates all Muslim countries too, which is why he has no problem killing them all en masse in terrorist attacks.


    btw Pakistan is a democracy, it just has some rebel regions in the west.

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    I wonder how much the Obuma team paid them to say this and back Mc Cain


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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    btw Pakistan is a democracy, it just has some rebel regions in the west.
    I'm quite aware of that, but they are not known for their enlightend penal code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    I'm quite aware of that, but they are not known for their enlightend penal code.
    You mean the one kept in place by the western supported dictator, in the adversity of the democratic liberals like Bhutto and Sharif trying to get in?

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    You know Obama means in Iranian? "He's with us"



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