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    Armed and Nervous in Alaska

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    Armed and nervous in Alaska
    Fears rise that Democrats will assault Second Amendment rights
    By JAMES HALPIN
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    Published: November 10th, 2008 10:22 PM
    Last Modified: November 10th, 2008 07:42 AM

    On the neatly stacked ammunition shelves at the Alaska Shooters Supply is a sign: "There is no such thing as too much ammo."

    But in recent days, there has been concern about too little.

    Over the past week, ammunition has been selling by the pallet-load at the shop. Guns, particularly military-style weapons, are a hot ticket.

    And high-capacity magazines were selling so well, the Boniface Parkway shop ran out the week of the Nov. 4 election.

    That's no coincidence. Fear of stiffer gun laws after Barack Obama's successful presidential bid and a Congress with a larger Democratic edge is prompting gun enthusiasts across the country to stock up in record numbers.

    "Obama is the best gun salesman we've had in the last 50 years," said Jack Murray, Alaska Shooters Supply owner. "We sold more guns (the day after the election) than I have on any one particular day in 21 years. I was crying all the way to the bank."

    Through last week, his shop was pulling in between three and six times its daily sales average, Murray said. The store sold 18 rifles Wednesday, compared with five or six on a normal day. Semiautomatics, assault rifles, large magazines and military-caliber ammunition were flying off the shelves, he said.

    "They're not buying by the box. They're buying by the case," Murray said.

    The scene at Murray's store was repeating itself across Anchorage and the country. The rush appears to have started building before Election Day as Obama and his party looked to be headed for a big day at the ballot box.

    SURGE IN BACKGROUND CHECKS

    Through this Sept. 30, the FBI had conducted 8.47 million background checks on prospective gun owners, compared with 7.84 million through that date in 2007, according to data compiled for the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. That amounts to an 8 percent increase.

    The trend intensified last month when, as an Obama win looked increasingly inevitable, there were more than 108,000 more background checks for gun purchases than in October 2007, a 15 percent increase.

    "People are absolutely petrified of unilateral and silly increases in ammunition taxes. I've probably sold 70- or 80,000 rounds of ammunition over the past couple of days," Ken Feinman, manager of Wild West Guns off Homer Drive and East 71st Avenue, said Thursday. "I think there's an element of panic going on, and it's pretty much universal among all the shops here."

    Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, also thinks the Democratic surge is a top reason guns are suddenly a hot commodity.

    "I don't think he'll be able to stand up to that anti-Second Amendment wing of the Democratic Party that's just been spoiling for a chance to ban America's guns," LaPierre said of Obama.

    Throughout his campaign, Obama voiced support for the right to bear arms and vowed to protect gun-ownership rights. However, he does favor "common sense" gun laws and has voted as a lawmaker to leave gun-makers and dealers open to lawsuits. As an Illinois state lawmaker, he supported a ban on all forms of semiautomatic weapons and tighter state restrictions on firearms in general.

    It's not surprising, then, that the pro-gun control Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence endorsed Obama and called his win Tuesday "a major victory."

    NRA TARGETS OBAMA

    But Obama's record on guns also impassioned groups like the NRA, which waged a spirited, multimillion-dollar campaign portraying him as a threat to gun owners. In the days before the election, the association's political arm issued a "special election message" equating a vote for Obama to a vote against gun ownership.

    "Barack Obama has such a long, openly anti-gun record that he cannot hide his true stance," the statement says. "Obama, with his career of supporting every gun control scheme he's ever encountered, represents a real threat to Second Amendment rights."

    Gun advocates take some solace in the current makeup of the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled 5-4 this summer to strike down the District of Columbia's 32-year ban on handguns. For now, gun rights supporters hold a narrow edge on the court, but Obama could appoint justices who would swing it the other way.

    Meanwhile, gun sales remained strong and steady at Anchorage shops like Wild West Guns, where sales Thursday were up 700 percent over the same time last year and 300 percent for the month overall, Feinman said. Based on talk in the aisles, there was no doubt the surge was in response to the election, he said.

    The spike there also included weapons like semiautomatic military rifles -- those that were banned under Bill Clinton's administration -- which have historically been targeted by gun control proponents, he said.

    Feinman's clients include people from all walks, he said -- doctors, lawyers and police officers. All of them are concerned Obama will take aim at gun ownership, he said.

    "Obviously, there's a great deal of fear that the new administration, rather than concentrating on fighting crime, is going to pick on legitimate gun owners," Feinman said. "I think there's some legitimate concern on the part of the people. I just think they should take a deep breath and calm down a little bit and perhaps think of ways other than just buying."


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    Obviously people have nothing better to do than still blame the president for their problems, except they are blaming the president-elect who has yet to even make such decisions.

    While I am pro-second amendment, I do not fear the new administration. I think Obama has enough to worry about than taking away our rights to own and operate firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongfu View Post
    Obviously people have nothing better to do than still blame the president for their problems, except they are blaming the president-elect who has yet to even make such decisions.

    While I am pro-second amendment, I do not fear the new administration. I think Obama has enough to worry about than taking away our rights to own and operate firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongfu View Post

    While I am pro-second amendment, I do not fear the new administration.
    Neither do I. The fear is unjustified, and really just silly. The Supreme Court ruled with an iron fist, not long ago, in a way that protects the second amendment more effectively than perhaps anything in memory.

    Obama isn't nearly anti-gun as people think. He supports handgun ownership. He just doesn't support automatic rifle ownership. And neither do I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    Neither do I. The fear is unjustified, and really just silly. The Supreme Court ruled with an iron fist, not long ago, in a way that protects the second amendment more effectively than perhaps anything in memory.

    Obama isn't nearly anti-gun as people think. He supports handgun ownership. He just doesn't support automatic rifle ownership. And neither do I.
    And that is where the problem lies. People need autoloading rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    And that is where the problem lies. People need autoloading rifles.
    Are you talking semi-auto, or full? What the hell does anyone need a fully automatic assault rifle for, if not to either kill people and/or reinforce your masculinity?

    What if you just learn to aim properly? Cheaper too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamaeleo View Post
    Are you talking semi-auto, or full? What the hell does anyone need a fully automatic assault rifle for, if not to either kill people and/or reinforce your masculinity?

    What if you just learn to aim properly? Cheaper too...
    I was referring to semi-automatic. Although the term autoloading rifle (after the shot is fired the gun automatically reloads for another shot) is pretty much a good assumption that I am referring to a semi-automatic. Automatic firing would more lean toward a machine gun.

    Though I see nothing wrong with owning a fully automatic weapon.

    And I am a long range rifle shooter. Groundhogs, crows and coyotes. So I know how to aim and I usually do it with a bolt rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chamaeleo View Post
    or reinforce your masculinity?
    IMO...lots and lots of gun owners, along with lots and lots of 2-story pickup drivers...need neither lots of guns nor the inefficient (and ugly) big trucks they drive. They are compensating for a little penis.
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    they need those guns to shoot... BEARS with!

    and possibly the invading russian horde.

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    Bah... gun control, gay-marriage, affirmitive action etc. debates are political luxuries of the 1990's. If Obama is seen pushing anything other than improvements in the Economy, Energy, Healthcare and Afganistan (in that order I think) his approval will plumet. Being the astute politician that he is, I think he is fully aware of this. Hence his support of the recent 2nd Amendment Supreme Court ruling.

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    ITT more uninformed people stimulating each other's fears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Bah... gun control, gay-marriage, affirmitive action etc. debates are political luxuries of the 1990's. If Obama is seen pushing anything other than improvements in the Economy, Energy, Healthcare and Afganistan (in that order I think) his approval will plumet. Being the astute politician that he is, I think he is fully aware of this. Hence his support of the recent 2nd Amendment Supreme Court ruling.
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    seriously this gun freak out is hilarious

    Im going to get my FFL and sell the out of some guns to these idiots.

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    I myself went and stocked up on ammunition a short while before the election even. But I was low on ammo and I always buy enough of the same lot so I dont have to worry about rezeroing my guns between different lots of ammo.

    Its not without some concern. But hopefully Obama will have enough sense that none of this will be necessary. I think the notable backlash from the American Heartland is of some concern to him and it would be in his best interest not to further infuriate the situation by attacking their God or their guns.

    Plus I wanted to beat the markup. Right now I bet ammo salesman have marked up their ammunition to make a profit. So much for their concern for the people buying from them. Using a scare of 500 percent tax increases on ammo so they can get people to pay them 50 % more on ammo.

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    See, look how "socialist" Obama is stimulating capitalism!

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    No wonder all the decent quality Ruger 10/22 high capacity mags were sold out at cheaperthandirt.com! How's a boy supposed to buy his Californian brother a super-cool/illegal birthday present these days?
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    theres a big difference between autoi loading and automatic.
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    He hasn't even been elected and he's stimulating the economy.

    I'm sure the people in Alaska are buying guns because a black guy being elected = antiChrist = ARMAGEDDON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    He hasn't even been elected and he's stimulating the economy.

    I'm sure the people in Alaska are buying guns because a black guy being elected = antiChrist = ARMAGEDDON
    Yeah so those Alaskans are a bunch of racists. You sound like JackAss Murtha.
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