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    Default Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Not of a idealogical reason, but for self preservation,are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    If we in west,simple don't buy brand marks ,like Adidas ,Nike,Philips etc.made in China,we should avoid the relocation of companies , and so, avoid in certain way, the crisis in the western world .Portugal lost thousands of jobs in a textile sector due to relocation,including Portuguese companies like Salsa,Tiffosi etc,for what?

    Better quality?Not for sure.

    Big profits?The only reason.



    "Latest threat from China: Toxic Clothes?

    Here's a good reason to wash new clothes before putting them on infants and children: A New Zealand television station is reporting that "scientists found formaldehyde in woolen and cotton clothes at 500 times higher than is safe."

    UK trading standards are on alert after Chinese-made clothes in New Zealand were discovered to have up to 900 times the safe level of formaldehyde in them. Formaldehyde is used to protect clothes that have to be shipped great distances against mildew. However, long-term exposure to high levels can be harmful, causing problems ranging from minor skin rashes to some types of cancer.

    The latest safety alert over cheap Chinese goods was sounded in New Zealand. It has been passed on to trading standards officials in Britain.

    "Any consumer worried about harm caused by clothes they have bought should contact the retailer or report their concerns to trading standards," a spokesman for the Government's new department for business, enterprise and regulatory reform said."

    Nothing good come from there ,only good profits for few ones.

    http://lindasyoga.blogspot.com/2007/...-products.html
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7339468.stm
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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    The biggest step to avoiding Chinese products is to avoid shopping at WalMart.
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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    The biggest step to avoiding Chinese products is to avoid shopping at WalMart.
    LOL, yeah.


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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Correction:
    Are you ready to boycott cheap products?
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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm View Post
    Correction:
    Are you ready to boycott cheap products?
    Men you are a rich one

    I don't saw any cheap product.
    http://www.shoedeals4u.com/project/nike-shox-1.htm



    I just saw a 1000% of profit or more for Nike.



    130 US dollars.
    They have any nuclear engine inside?
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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Why would I want to reward less competitive producers?

    You're not familiar with the theory of comparative advantage, are you?

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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm View Post
    Correction:
    Are you ready to boycott cheap products?
    If they are cheap because they were produced efficiently? - no.

    I they are cheap because they treat their workers like crap? - still no, but I would support high import tariffs to level the playing field for the producers who have better moral standards.

    Quote Originally Posted by pajomife@iol.pt View Post
    If we in west,simple don't buy brand marks ,like Adidas ,Nike,Philips etc.made in China,we should avoid the relocation of companies
    Philips was relocated from Eindhoven to Amsterdam.
    But how is that a problem?

    As long as you buy western brands, designed by western engineers/designers, you're at least keeping the high paying jobs in the west.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    If they are cheap because they were produced efficiently? - no.

    I they are cheap because they treat their workers like crap? - still no, but I would support high import tariffs to level the playing field for the producers who have better moral standards.



    Philips was relocated from Eindhoven to Amsterdam.
    But how is that a problem?


    As long as you buy western brands, designed by western engineers/designers, you're at least keeping the high paying jobs in the west.
    PSV Amsterdam...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm View Post
    Correction:
    Are you ready to boycott cheap products?
    "what you pay is what you get"
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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    China just needs to catch up with their manufacturing, they need some new laws and saftey regulations, American manufacturing was the same way in terms of safety when America was getting started as a large manufacturing economy .

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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Quote Originally Posted by fieldmarshal View Post
    China just needs to catch up with their manufacturing, they need some new laws and saftey regulations, American manufacturing was the same way in terms of safety when America was getting started as a large manufacturing economy .
    I don't care what they are doing.The quality is only one question.
    The main question is that ,we just lose our jobs because they work for free,and if we lose our jobs we don't have money, and if ,many of us don't have money to spend,all the economy will collapses,as we are seeing.

    We have to protect our selfs,i just try to not buy any non occidental made product, if I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pajomife@iol.pt View Post
    I don't care what they are doing.The quality is only one question.
    The main question is that ,we just lose our jobs because the work for free,and if we lose our jobs we don't have money, and if ,many of us don't have money to spend,all the economy will collapses,as we are seeing.
    This is nothing to do with the current global economic crisis, just to make that clear.

    If the jobs stay here, you still wont be able to afford them because it will be too expensive.

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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    Quote Originally Posted by fieldmarshal View Post
    This is nothing to do with the current global economic crisis, just to make that clear.

    If the jobs stay here, you still wont be able to afford them because it will be too expensive.
    No ,the products don't have to be " too expensive " that's a false point of view,the brand marks ,maybe have to lower profits,but the prices still the same,and the people gain confidence to consume.You kown why?Just because don't have afraid of losing job .I still have a job( I'm a lucky one)but I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajomife@iol.pt View Post
    No ,the products don't have to be " too expensive " that's a false point of view,the brand marks ,maybe have to lower profits,but the prices still the same,and the people gain confidence to consume.You kown why?Just because don't have afraid of losing job .I still have a job( I'm a lucky one)but I'm afraid.
    They will be too expensive, companies always have a profit margin, if they are paying their workers a lot, they are going to raise their prices to compensate for it. Ok, even if they are not expensive, you think they can be cheaper than the Chinese one? And Chinese quality is not that horrible to say, i will pay soo much for quality, especially when you are buying in large volumes.
    The one thing i don't like about the Chinese manufacturers is, they copy, they blatantly and openly copy products from other companies that have spend soo much money and resources to develop that product. I know one of the sister companies of the company i work for came out with a new small motor, selling it for 80 cents each, 3 months later, there was a exact same chinese copy out selling for 30 cents, you cant compete with those prices.

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    The solution to American manufacturing troubles is not to go back to making low-tech trinkets and clothes. The solution is to produce the things America has a competative advantage in; complex and high tech goods such as cars, planes, software, computer hardware, military hardware, design services etc. and selling them to the world.

    Anybody who thinks American industry making socks, shoes and toys is the way forward is bathing in nostolgic dellusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    The solution to American manufacturing troubles is not to go back to making low-tech trinkets and clothes. The solution is to produce the things America has a competative advantage in; complex and high tech goods such as cars, planes, software, computer hardware, military hardware, design services etc. and selling them to the world.
    Problem is: the quality of education in America isn't high enough.
    Engineers won't be losing their jobs, but factory workers will.

    Quote Originally Posted by pajomife@iol.pt View Post
    Its a shame ,how they sell a shoes ,that cost 2 or 5 Euros,for 60,70 or 100 euros.
    But the profits go to the Western owners, not the Chinese.



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    Default Re: Are you ready to boycott Chinese products?

    High energy prices and the declining economy in America works against the Chinese importers. Times are only getting tougher for them now.

    We buy less things, and the cost to ship all that stuff over here is getting more expensive, which may lead to increased production in America. (Mind you, I did not say the United States!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by fieldmarshal View Post
    China just needs to catch up with their manufacturing, they need some new laws and saftey regulations, American manufacturing was the same way in terms of safety when America was getting started as a large manufacturing economy .
    Yes but it was during the industrial revolution where everyone was producing crap by today's standards. Your post is like saying if North Korea got into car manufacturing today it is understandable if their cars explode if in a collision or you had to crank the front of the car to start it.


    we cant boycott China simply because we cant boycott our things we use on everyday basis. please stop this senseless China bashing already. they are good people, I work with Chinese on a daily basis.
    What does the chinese being good people have to do with chinese companies producting shoddy (and sometimes dangerous) products? They are seperate issues and bashing dangerous chinese products != bashing chinese people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Yes but it was during the industrial revolution where everyone was producing crap by today's standards. Your post is like saying if North Korea got into car manufacturing today it is understandable if their cars explode if in a collision or you had to crank the front of the car to start it.
    It is not that they do not have the technology to make products of equal quality, since they are getting started, it takes time to place all the regulations and standards. They are trying to be as cheap as possible, safety is the most expensive thing in any product, all the approvals and testing. They know if they implement all the saftey regulations like in the US, they wont be as cheap, so they bypass them, and China does not have a govt regulation to make sure they don't in many cases, as of et.

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    LO! yeah and look how well free trade has worked so far sphere.
    Please, can you make your counter argument more general and broad. You are getting to technical for me to follow.


    US exports are booming under free trade agreements. How we have chosen to spend that money has been poor.


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