Campaign Advice (Russia, aft T50)

[Viking Prince]

How to proceed? Russia has just completed a conquest of Denmark with ally HRE having seized Hamburg with the main professional military forces in Arhus and Oslo. Hamburg province has the remains of the Danish army as rebels. Russia is allied with HRE and Poland. Hungary is as far east as Kiev. Logical next opponent is Hungary, but the Russian forces are not well positioned for such a campaign. Demobilizing the main army is an option. So what should the Russians do?

I would post a jpeg but I have not yet mastered the art. Working on this

[Silent Assassin]

Get to the England Island and take it all for Russia

[Viking Prince]

Get to the England Island and take it all for Russia

I am considering that -- recon with ships or simply take the army and find an appropriate place to land (Ireland?).

[Silent Assassin]

I would start by taking the castle of Nottingham, this could be a good defensive position at first and you will be able to have better units from there than any other city on the Island

[Viking Prince]

I would start by taking the castle of Nottingham, this could be a good defensive position at first and you will be able to have better units from there than any other city on the Island

You do realize this is 50 turns in and that Nottingham will quite likely be held by either the English or Scotland. Land and seize between the two of them. England hold 5 and Scotland holds 2 settlements. England is in perpetual war with France. I do not know the situation, though England has a larger military than Russia.

Russia should be concerned with any adventure that may prompt a two front war. Poland (reasonable) may break the alliance and attack since there are no open/rebel settlements available. The unallied Hungarians (terrible) are a possibility to declare war. Relations are good with HRE, but they are also allied with the Poles. If Poland were to attack ...

The entire situation began because Russia was attempting to isolate Poland with alliances with Hungary and HRE. Denmark was at war with HRE and a diplomatic gift offer of Russia to attack Denmark was accepted in diplomatic activity. Russia attacked Stockholm and voila -- Hungary was allied with Denmark and no longer an ally. A quick shuffle created the alliance with Poland and thus the three way alliance in existance at the moment.

[Silent Assassin]

Still I would go to take Nottinham and bring with you a diplomat and 2 priests ally yourself you Scotland and let them live up North and one thing that I can say is Scotland will probably be in the same one settlement that they have started with unless your playing a Mod. So don't worry about Scotland... If you want to be sure before debarquing your army send your diplomat or bring a spy to see where they are at.

[Silent Assassin]

Nice Picture, now what would be good for me to know: Have more information on scotland who are their allies what provinces they have

[Viking Prince]

Nice Picture, now what would be good for me to know: Have more information on scotland who are their allies what provinces they have

No allies and only at war with the rebels. They hold two provinces -- whhich ones will only be discovered by voyage.

England holds 5, allied with Portugal (with a fleet in the N. Sea) and at war with France. When playing Spain I have noticed that England usually takes Tork and then works the continent so there may be Rennes as the 5th settlement.

By advocating Nottingham, I am assuming a very aggressive launch into London and York to quickly clear the English off of the Isles and then get a ceasefire.

An interesting idea -- I was assuming Dublin since it is in rebel hands and then assess the situation. I usually take a slower and mor deliberate route. Might be interesting to vary strategy though.

With England at war with France and France at war with HRE -- this is not exactly the enemy of my enemy type of attack/alliance. By weakening England, Russia will be strengthening France. Not that this is particularly a problem for Russia, but will this also affect when Hungary or Poland gets restive?

At any rate -- I will work on this in the early AM and report on the results. Thanks.

[Silent Assassin]

No allies and only at war with the rebels. They hold two provinces -- whhich ones will only be discovered by voyage.

England holds 5, allied with Portugal (with a fleet in the N. Sea) and at war with France. When playing Spain I have noticed that England usually takes Tork and then works the continent so there may be Rennes as the 5th settlement.

By advocating Nottingham, I am assuming a very aggressive launch into London and York to quickly clear the English off of the Isles and then get a ceasefire.

An interesting idea -- I was assuming Dublin since it is in rebel hands and then assess the situation. I usually take a slower and mor deliberate route. Might be interesting to vary strategy though.

With England at war with France and France at war with HRE -- this is not exactly the enemy of my enemy type of attack/alliance. By weakening England, Russia will be strengthening France. Not that this is particularly a problem for Russia, but will this also affect when Hungary or Poland gets restive?

At any rate -- I will work on this in the early AM and report on the results. Thanks.

I would definatly take Nottingham and not Dublin it's probably still Rebel and it's a small undevelop town that take ages to build up. by taking Nottingham you will throw two stones in one pitch (it's a french sentence that I have translated maybe not in the best way sorry).

What I meant by that is that you will take out the only castle on that island and will be a good advantage as the English won't be able to counter attack you with their castle units after taking London, Carnevon and York ask for a ceasfire or ask them to become your vassals and then you could turn around and to the same with scotlands(they won't be a problem anyway or get on France's back. Plus get an alliance with HRE and take all of France.

For Scotlands info. Simple they have Edinburg and Iverness so ally with them.

So after taking all of France your campaign objectives will be done

[Pinky333]

In my opion i would take a 2 front war. ally with scotland and then dock for london and go from their killing england but at the same time take keiv and budapest. then work down

[Pinky333]

if you got those 3 cities in a few turns you would be making bank, especially if you sacked them

[Lord Feloric's Ambassador]

The other posters have suggested attacking England, my Lord believes this may open up too many opportunities for your enemies, leaving you with too many fronts to fight on.

The Great Feloric has drawn out a battle map (in the attachment) that you may find useful, if you would let me explain.

The first phase (indicated in red arrows) is to invade Hungary and Poland. My Lord suggests you betray Poland while they are still weak. The second phase (indicated in purple arrows) the plan is to destroy the Holy Roman Empire and push on into Greece (not shown). You will notice there is also a red and purple arrow pointing to England. My Lord advises you use slash and burn techniques on the semi-isolated British isles to pay for your expensive campaign.

My Lord apologizes for the size of the map.

[platinumkiller]

The other posters have suggested attacking England, my Lord believes this may open up too many opportunities for your enemies, leaving you with too many fronts to fight on.

The Great Feloric has drawn out a battle map (in the attachment) that you may find useful, if you would let me explain.

The first phase (indicated in red arrows) is to invade Hungary and Poland. My Lord suggests you betray Poland while they are still weak. The second phase (indicated in purple arrows) the plan is to destroy the Holy Roman Empire and push on into Greece (not shown). You will notice there is also a red and purple arrow pointing to England. My Lord advises you use slash and burn techniques on the semi-isolated British isles to pay for your expensive campaign.

My Lord apologizes for the size of the map.

umm sorry friend but that may not help that could take up to 100 turns most of the other ppl are right your take the iles you are safe i have never seen franc or any one invade the iles so he should be good and from there he can also work on his eastern front and attack France from the north and east

[Viking Prince]

These do not show much because there is not much to see. I have a spy posted and he covers the entire region in several turns.

btw -- started the Eglish campaign, only a few turns in. Scotland has control of Dublin and not north Scotland. England has the rest and Rennes (french) as I had assumed. Landed and am beseiging Nottingham. The English have about 50 units around London, mostly Mailed Knights and Hoblers with some Billmen and another dozen militia in London itself. My plan will be to split a general and some troops to the north and take York while bringing up reinforcements for London. Since my Spearmen and cavalry are better suited for an open field battle this is not really a fair fight -- it will just take time.

THe turn that I began the seige -- Hungary did indeed go crazy except it was to devlare against HRE. Poland came to the aid of HRE and both will be busy aganst the Hungarians --the Russian border is peaceful!

The Mongols appeared near Bagdad -- I am guessing this will mean the end of Hungary after the English campaign as I will also come to the aid of my allies. The plan will be my usual sweap through Hungarian settlements and the rest of the Balkans and into Constantinople. THe fight through the Turks into the Holyland against the Mongols will be interesting and then victory!

[Silent Assassin]

If I look at your border with Hungary, looks like they are busy elsewhere and that is all good for you, the settlements near your borders aren't protected at all so that is good for you it will give you time to take the English

[Viking Prince]

@Rebel6666

I see a paperclip and a really cool battleplan jpg attached to the thread. How do you do that? and when? I cannot tell from the posts.

[Silent Assassin]

Link me to the thread ...

[Arto]

Kill Poland! Are your borders secured against the Mongols?

[Silent Assassin]

Kill Poland! Are your borders secured against the Mongols?

Yes they are as the Mongols are now Near Bagdad(SP)

[Viking Prince]

This thread has an attached jpeg. I thought you did it? Looks like a screenshot of the minimap with three sets of arrows showing Russia's choices. I did not notice it until this am.