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    The Disappearing Male

    "We are conducting a vast toxicological experiment in which our children and our children's children are the experimental subjects." Dr. Herbert Needleman

    The Disappearing Male is about one of the most important, and least publicized, issues facing the human species: the toxic threat to the male reproductive system.

    The last few decades have seen steady and dramatic increases in the incidence of boys and young men suffering from genital deformities, low sperm count, sperm abnormalities and testicular cancer.

    At the same time, boys are now far more at risk of suffering from ADHD, autism, Tourette's syndrome, cerebral palsy, and dyslexia.

    The Disappearing Male takes a close and disturbing look at what many doctors and researchers now suspect are responsible for many of these problems: a class of common chemicals that are ubiquitous in our world.

    Found in everything from shampoo, sunglasses, meat and dairy products, carpet, cosmetics and baby bottles, they are called "hormone mimicking" or "endocrine disrupting" chemicals and they may be starting to damage the most basic building blocks of human development.

    Full Video Documentary here
    http://www.archive.org/details/TheDisappearingMale-CBC

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    More women for the rest?
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    There are billions of humans, I'm sure things will have evened out before that changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
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    "We are conducting a vast toxicological experiment in which our children and our children's children are the experimental subjects." Dr. Herbert Needleman
    I agree that we should ensure the survival of our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex.

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    The documentary sounds like a spoof in the first 45 seconds.

    I've heard this theory before and it's certainly a disturbing thing to hear. The amount of chemicals in modern products has always been huge and even worse, hugely variable. All you have to do is change the brain chemistry slightly and the changes will be very clear to see, but in the body as a whole over time it's harder to see.

    We would have to have a serious change in industry to reduce the chemicals found in the products we use. It's not that we couldn't, we just don't want to. It's the same with Cancer, we could easily reduce the rates to a fraction of what it is now, but it's just not seen as feasible to change our polluted environment. Human beings simply haven't the evolutionary development to live in the environments we've made for ourselves in the past 100 years. We just seem to have accepted it as a necessary evil. It would make our world less... cosy. The Woburn incident is particularly indicative of this.

    Quite why products aren't tested on growing animals is beyond me. Perhaps the companies know they wouldn't like the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markas View Post
    The documentary sounds like a spoof in the first 45 seconds.

    I've heard this theory before and it's certainly a disturbing thing to hear. The amount of chemicals in modern products has always been huge and even worse, hugely variable. All you have to do is change the brain chemistry slightly and the changes will be very clear to see, but in the body as a whole over time it's harder to see.

    We would have to have a serious change in industry to reduce the chemicals found in the products we use. It's not that we couldn't, we just don't want to. It's the same with Cancer, we could easily reduce the rates to a fraction of what it is now, but it's just not seen as feasible to change our polluted environment. Human beings simply haven't the evolutionary development to live in the environments we've made for ourselves in the past 100 years. We just seem to have accepted it as a necessary evil. It would make our world less... cosy. The Woburn incident is particularly indicative of this.

    Quite why products aren't tested on growing animals is beyond me. Perhaps the companies know they wouldn't like the answer.
    it would also cost them alot. and i mean, alot - of profit.

    Think of the tobacco companys a few decades ago.

    the most interesting point this made though, was that 10's of thousands of chemicals have been created in something like the last 50 years, and hardly any of them have been tested for effects on living and growing lifeforms.

    i remeber doing a lesson on 'DDT' in the food chain when i was in school.

    DDT, DDE, and DDD magnify through the food chain, with apex predators such as raptors having a higher concentration of the chemicals than other animals sharing the same environment. They are stored mainly in body fat. In the United States, human blood and fat tissue samples collected in the early 1970s showed detectable levels in all samples. A study conducted in the late 1970s after the U.S.

    DDT ban found that blood levels were declining, but DDT or metabolites were still found in a high proportion of samples. Biomonitoring conducted by the Centers for Disease Control as recently as 2002 shows that more than half of subjects tested had detectable levels of DDT or metabolites in their blood,[32] and of the 700+ milk samples tested by the USDA in 2005, 85% had detectable levels of DDE.
    DDT and its breakdown product DDE, like other organochlorines, have been shown to have xenoestrogenic activity; meaning they are chemically similar enough to estrogens to trigger hormonal responses in animals. This endocrine disrupting activity has been observed when DDT is used in laboratory studies involving mice and rats as test subjects, and available epidemiological evidence indicates that these effects may be occurring in humans as a result of DDT exposure. In areas where DDT is used for malaria control, infants can be exposed via breastmilk in levels that exceed the W.H.O's acceptable daily intake value for DDT.

    A review article in The Lancet concludes that, "research has shown that exposure to DDT at amounts that would be needed in malaria control might cause preterm birth and early weaning … toxicological evidence shows endocrine-disrupting properties; human data also indicate possible disruption in semen quality, menstruation, gestational length, and duration of lactation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Environmental_impact
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    deformed males should be left for the hounds !
    and our women trained to have naked battles for the honor of our sperm!

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    ive always wondered what effects all the crap we put in food and materials is doing to our bodies, and what gets passed on to the next generation etc (we have seen it happen with wildlife food chains and more potent chemicals.....)

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    their4 not at a higher rishk of suffering autism or adhd I suspect the vast majority if not all the cases of rising adhd, and autism comes from better diagnocing, now their could, and should be tests done to see if the chemicals we put out into environment has made any effects on our reproductive systems and even genetic disorders but I'm rather skeptical.
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    It's quite simple: There are too many ugly women out there!





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    Everytime a movie a radically new idea in a movie or book comes out (aka Children of Men) someone has to go find some rogue researchers that are claiming they have a theory that supports that title.

    It happened with Zombie movies, it has not happened with Children of Men
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    well chemicles can have an effect on humans just look at Hexavalent chromium, plus their abestos, also large quantities of Bisphenol A can cause heart disease, I think that testing should definitley be required.
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    Stupid article/video.

    Before it were 106 boys per 100 girls, now its 104. Nothing to worry about.

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    That's what happens when you use plastic in everything. All those damn estrogen-like compounds leak into our food and water.

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    After WW2, Women vastly outnumbered men in European society. Due to some unexplained phenomenon, most of the births during the 1940s-1950s were boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound_Of_Culann View Post
    After WW2, Women vastly outnumbered men in European society. Due to some unexplained phenomenon, most of the births during the 1940s-1950s were boys.
    Well there is a very good reason for that.... Europe got slapped with two major wars... and the great majority of deaths in wars are men... so the "living" population numbers would be more women then men...

    As for the 1940s-50s birth rates... I havent seen those numbers...but basically the chances are pretty close to 1:1 so what you may have seen is a large perportional increase based on existing gender populations but the actual birth rate ratios were most likely not that dissimilar from any other time/place
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    That would be horrible. But my family has the opposite problem. Tons of men and few women. Going back on my fathers side (where it matters as only males have both X and Y chromosomes) there hasn't been a single female born to a male family member in more than five generations. My mom wanted a daughter but the doctor said looking at the record it was less than a one percent chance of that happening. So it's just me and my little brother.

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    population control FTW.

    Throw away all your newspapers!
    Most of you are Libertarians, you just havent figured it out yet.

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    It may be the planet/nature trying to save itself by attempting to kill the destructive cancer that is the human race.

    Or it's a cook trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill...

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