Barbarian Invasion inquiry

**Prince of Judah** · November 18, 2008, 08:18 PM

I have a few questions about this expansion.

1. Is it EVEN possible to beat the campaign as the Western Roman Empire?
2. Is there a really really good graphics mod for BI (like modding legions 1.5 or the original)
3. Where can I find a tech tree and guide for this expansion?
4. In the original campaign, I beat the short one but didn't get the unlockable factions. Why? must I beat the long one?

**Scutarii** · November 18, 2008, 08:21 PM

1. Yes. Its not even particularly hard, once you've done the first few turns.
2. No, not if you want just graphics. Invasio Barbarorum is a full conversion of the same time period, and its good. Maybe try that out?
3. Don't think there's a tech tree... For guide's just search around the forum (search button is your friend), try the .org, or Google it.
4. I don't think there are any unlockables in BI, just playable and non-playable. You need to edit descr_strat to unlock the others.

**Prince of Judah** · November 18, 2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Scutarii

1. Yes. Its not even particularly hard, once you've done the first few turns.
2. No, not if you want just graphics. Invasio Barbarorum is a full conversion of the same time period, and its good. Maybe try that out?
3. Don't think there's a tech tree... For guide's just search around the forum (search button is your friend), try the .org, or Google it.
4. I don't think there are any unlockables in BI, just playable and non-playable. You need to edit descr_strat to unlock the others.

Thanks for the help. I'll try out that mod. ...When playing as the WRE within the first 2 turns I'm already in debt. I can't build anything or recruit anyone. And for some reason I can't see what the ERE is doing. Btw question 4 was actually about the original campaign not BI. I beat the short campaign as Julii.

**Otto von Bismarck** · November 18, 2008, 09:09 PM

1. Is it EVEN possible to beat the campaign as the Western Roman Empire?

Yes it is, I did it many times. Just build up lines of forts along the main "highways" and make sure that your trasury is full. Eastern Roman Empire will be too busy with the Persians so you can only concentrate on the Barbarians.

**Prince of Judah** · November 18, 2008, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Otto von Bismarck

1. Is it EVEN possible to beat the campaign as the Western Roman Empire?

Yes it is, I did it many times. Just build up lines of forts along the main "highways" and make sure that your trasury is full. Eastern Roman Empire will be too busy with the Persians so you can only concentrate on the Barbarians.

But the thing is i have more cities eating money than producing it. And all the cities populations are declining. On start!

**htismaqe** · November 19, 2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Imperiumiv

But the thing is i have more cities eating money than producing it. And all the cities populations are declining. On start!

Disband armies immediately, especially garrisons in cities that you either A) want to let rebel anyway or B) need only minimal armies to keep happy.

**Yojimbo** · November 20, 2008, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Otto von Bismarck

1. Is it EVEN possible to beat the campaign as the Western Roman Empire?

Yes it is, I did it many times. Just build up lines of forts along the main "highways" and make sure that your trasury is full. Eastern Roman Empire will be too busy with the Persians so you can only concentrate on the Barbarians.

i can't seem to win a campaign in BI. When you finish hording a horde comes and kills you or you run out of money if you don't horde a horde kills you.

**htismaqe** · November 20, 2008, 02:20 PM

You've got to stay away from the enemies that horde and the places they will likely target when they do. Unfortunately, that means either conquering Greece or conquering Egypt, which makes it not unlike most RTW campaigns. Most of the time, the Vandals and Huns are going to head straight for Italy...

**Otto von Bismarck** · November 22, 2008, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Forlornhop3

i can't seem to win a campaign in BI. When you finish hording a horde comes and kills you or you run out of money if you don't horde a horde kills you.

I know, it is hard to play WRE in BI, but there are ways to do it. Just lower your expensess to the minimum, concetrate all your forces on kiling the barbarians as soon as they have threatened Italy, and have cities that are in your rear and upgrade them where they will only be producing income for you. Don't produce military units in them because they will only drain your treasury.

**Selifator** · November 19, 2008, 03:04 AM

Kick out all of your foederati cavalry, foederati spearmen. Perhaps abandon and destroy a few cities. Choose one religion and build all the buildings for that. As soon as things stabilize, connect all your regions by conquering rebels, then start amassing an army. Since you'll need lots against the hordes.

**Prince of Judah** · November 22, 2008, 09:04 AM

Another thing the irks me is that the units are WAY too colorful. Especially Eastern Roman because of the purple >_>.

**Selifator** · November 24, 2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Imperiumiv

Another thing the irks me is that the units are WAY too colorful. Especially Eastern Roman because of the purple >_>.

Welcome to the world of CA, where all tones are rendered equal for the average consumer can not bare to watch differently coloured or toned units within one faction. BEWARE THE COLOURS! THEY CAN KILL WITH THE BLINK OF A...? Hmm, a what? I dunno.

**mikoli** · December 09, 2008, 05:41 PM

It is possible to win with WRE and with WRE you can finish campaign faster than with any other faction!My personal best is 366 AD summer or 3 years!

**mikoli** · December 10, 2008, 06:36 AM

This is my blitz WRE strategy.This campaign was played on vh/vh.In your first turn you must transfer your capital to Massilia.Then you must disband all foederati cavalry and infantry units west of Massilia.Destroy all military buildings in all your settlements except Londinium,Augusta Treverorum,Rome,Carthage,Salona and Aqiuncum to get necessary cash.In all your settlements build only temples and ports.With Marcus The Gambler and with units from Augusta Treverorum and Augusta Vindelicorum attack Vicus Alemanni.After one turn of besieging Vicus Alemanni you must attack it and capture that settlement-exterminate it!With Placus The Horseman and units from Eburacum attack Dal Raida.In the next turn Celts will try to beat Placus while laying siege but you will easily beat them and you will capture Dal Raida-exterminate it.Move your units from Londinium next to Eburacum but don’t enter,leave Eburacum empty because Celts will bribe it.With those units next to Eburacum attack Eburacum and besiege it.Capture it but before you capture Tara.After capturing Dal Raida build there bireme and transfer your units to Ireland to besiege Tara in the next turn.Hire mercenaries and before capturing Tara ,capture Eburacum then Tara.With your assassin near Samarobriva kill family member in Campus Frisii and after killing him with units from Samarobriva and Colonia Agripina and with Nero Flavius besiege Campus Frisii.Don`t capture it until the last turn,if you don’t want to be attacked from Saxons.With Spirius Flavius and units from Aquincum capture Campus Quadi and after capturing it stay there 2 turns to prevent rebellion and after that attack and with units and Spirius Flavius from Campus Quadi capture Campus Marcomanni.Units from Carthago Nova transfer to Corduba and wait for the best moment to attack Tingi.When Berbers make their moves toward Carthage attack Tingi with those units and general from Corduba and hire some mercenaries.Transfer family member from Caralis to Carthage,because he is your best money maker.Change religion in Lepcis Magna to cristianity.In Salona recruit peasants turn after turn to avoid rebellion and attack from ERE.Comitatenses from Avaricum should be headed toward Vicus Frankii.Keep them going turn after turn.Your ultimate goal is to capture Constatinople.How?Be allies with ERE until the last turn at any cost. Comitatenses from Tarentum,Rome and Syracuse with your heir should capture Constatinople and units from Ravenna should capture Kydonia.For doing this you must be very lucky,I was.So in 365AD winter you should attack Constatinople,Kydonia and if you want Vicus Frankii.In the next turn capture Constatinople,Kydonia,Camus Quadi and if you can Vicus Frankii.It will be 366 summer and you will achieve victory.You don’t have to recruit any units except peasants but you must hire lots of mercenaries using my strategy.With starting 25 settlements you have to capture Vicus Alemanni,Del Raida,Tara,Tingi,Campus Quadi,Campus Marcomanni, Constatinople,Kydonia and Campus Frisii.All you need is luck and to be a great player.It’s not impossible give a try and you will complete campaign in 7 turns.Exterminate all captured settlements!Keep taxes as low as possible everywhere from first turn!