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    So i was deliberately letting my cities rebel so I could take them back and exterminate them to stop the rioting and I happened to see these fine men standing against me:



    Monty python reference anyone? I'd never noticed it before its a unique rebel unit, I'm glad I saw it because i could add it to my guide

    Yes I'm Seleucia I've had some major rebel trouble as you can see but all those provinces are mostly mine now this is from a few days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forlornhop3 View Post
    So i was deliberately letting my cities rebel so I could take them back and exterminate them to stop the rioting and I happened to see these fine men standing against me:

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    Monty python reference anyone? I'd never noticed it before its a unique rebel unit, I'm glad I saw it because i could add it to my guide

    Yes I'm Seleucia I've had some major rebel trouble as you can see but all those provinces are mostly mine now this is from a few days ago.
    +rep Brilliant find. Can't beat the Life of Brian.

    Though Judean simply means Jewish. Jewish (the group who follow the religion) Soldiers. Very simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy View Post
    +rep Brilliant find. Can't beat the Life of Brian.

    Though Judean simply means Jewish. Jewish (the group who follow the religion) Soldiers. Very simple.
    Thanks Aww is that all i guess it could just be that then but the way they are called Judean and the way front is mentioned in the description makes me think CA put it in there just for that
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    Yeah, the Judean zealots are created every time Jerusalem revolts, it doesn't matter which faction are the rulers though. They have incredibly high morale and are quite good troops, doubled with the fact that Jerusalem is well protected and large, which means you will have a hard time suppressing their revolt. Although your apparent army that is selected looks like it could handle the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acco View Post
    Yeah, the Judean zealots are created every time Jerusalem revolts, it doesn't matter which faction are the rulers though. They have incredibly high morale and are quite good troops, doubled with the fact that Jerusalem is well protected and large, which means you will have a hard time suppressing their revolt. Although your apparent army that is selected looks like it could handle the job.
    Really i had no idea they were there as a unique unit. Do you know of any other unique rebel units ill credit you in the guide for this and any others thanks!

    Yeah they have no armor tho so they die very quick, tho they have the best attack in rtw for spears: its huge. My army is crappy because I did a big downsizing of armies disbanding all my silver shiled stuff and cataphracts in the heartlands of my empire because of the cost of warring in so many places so i had mostly levy troops so i had to hire mercs quick to supress the rebellions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sextus Molestus View Post
    Yeah, I have seen them before (not to bash the thread in any way, but I thought they were relatively-well known, as well as the Helot rebels in Sparta if that rebels).

    I've not seen Monty Python, though, so I wouldn't know, but like one of the others said, Judean is a term for Jewish that I've heard in non-Monty-Python related subjects, so I would bet it's just "coincidence", if you can call it that.
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    I had no idea about the helot rebels either! I'll rebel Sparta on purpose and see if they are there. Same goes for you: if you know about any unique rebel units I'll credit you if you tell me where they are. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sextus Molestus View Post
    Judean is a term for Jewish that I've heard
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    Though Judean simply means Jewish. Jewish (the group who follow the religion) Soldiers. Very simple.
    As Kiljan points out, it's the bottom of the unit card that is pertinent here.

    But in fact it is the other way around as to the meaning of "Judean" and "Jewish". The word Jew etymologically derives from Judea - the people of Judea being "the Jews", all with a specific ancient religion. "Judean" does not mean "Jewish", it just means "someone from Judea". If you've seen the word used to mean Jewish elsewhere then it was in a poetic sense.
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    There are a number of Monty Python references in RTW, if you look closely enough....

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    Yeah, I have seen them before (not to bash the thread in any way, but I thought they were relatively-well known, as well as the Helot rebels in Sparta if that rebels).

    I've not seen Monty Python, though, so I wouldn't know, but like one of the others said, Judean is a term for Jewish that I've heard in non-Monty-Python related subjects, so I would bet it's just "coincidence", if you can call it that.

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    you guys are obviously not reading the info card at the very bottom.
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    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

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    Do you know of any other unique rebel units
    Yes.

    First, there is the Amazon rebels which are located around Russia, RTW-specific in the province of Hyperboria. They have powerful troops such as the Yubtseb elephants and chariots. The elephants are quite large and its fun to see them fling soldiers into the air, although its usually the archer on top that kills the enemy.

    Then you have the Gladiator Uprising. This occurs in any city that has built an Arena (or higher), obviously their army primarily contains gladiators, somewhat similar to Spartacus' revolt except this can occur anywhere, not just Italy.

    The Judean Zealots, as stated above by everyone's posts here.

    And as someone else said also, the Helot Uprising. The helots were an unfree social class in ancient Sparta and were considered slaves, many helot revolts took place in history and R:TW represents it. I haven't actually faced them yet, but they have high morale but they don't seem as powerful as other unique rebel units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acco View Post
    Yes.

    First, there is the Amazon rebels which are located around Russia, RTW-specific in the province of Hyperboria. They have powerful troops such as the Yubtseb elephants and chariots. The elephants are quite large and its fun to see them fling soldiers into the air, although its usually the archer on top that kills the enemy.

    Then you have the Gladiator Uprising. This occurs in any city that has built an Arena (or higher), obviously their army primarily contains gladiators, somewhat similar to Spartacus' revolt except this can occur anywhere, not just Italy.

    The Judean Zealots, as stated above by everyone's posts here.

    And as someone else said also, the Helot Uprising. The helots were an unfree social class in ancient Sparta and were considered slaves, many helot revolts took place in history and R:TW represents it. I haven't actually faced them yet, but they have high morale but they don't seem as powerful as other unique rebel units.
    yes i knew about the amazon and yubtseb elephants i still haven't sent a general up there I'll do it when i play next

    I know there's gladiator uprisings and and many many different sorts of rebels depending on where the city is and randomness as you can see their name, but do those have another actual unique units that you can see, as my guide is a unit guide so I'm interested in units. Like is there any unique gladiators in the gladiator uprising? Any for BI/Alexander too Thanks.

    Ill have to have a look at the data files again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forlornhop3 View Post
    I know there's gladiator uprisings and and many many different sorts of rebels depending on where the city is and randomness as you can see their name, but do those have another actual unique units that you can see, as my guide is a unit guide so I'm interested in units. Like is there any unique gladiators in the gladiator uprising?
    IIRC, they're Velite Gladiators (regardless of the faction they rebel from) with a different image card and they belong to the "Gladiator Uprising" rebel faction. I think they're the same as regular Velite Gladiators statwise, though.

    Also, I think the Judean Zealots can appear even if Jerusalem doesn't revolt - they can join Rebel Brigand stacks in the area - as I've seen them relatively often whenever I'm in the area.

    Never knew about the Helot revolts, I'll have to check them out.

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    Heh, nice find. I always hoped that one day I'd see the loading screen quote, "Romanes eunt domus--Brian" when I loaded up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturalist View Post
    Heh, nice find. I always hoped that one day I'd see the loading screen quote, "Romanes euut domus--Brian" when I loaded up.
    It is not in the game. I wish it was, though.

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    lol at the Monty Python reference: and guys, for those who don't get it, read the bottom of the unit card. The reference isn't in the name (Judean is obviously used outside of Monty Python). The Unit card mention popular or people's front.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scutarii View Post
    popular or people's front.
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    What other MP references are in the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wr1ght View Post
    I have checked Sparta and there is no helots there.
    Same here when they rebel its just standard units even tho they are called helot rebels. no uniques. and yes I meant the bottom of the unit card, that has to be what its there for
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    Another MP reference can be found in the construction summary screen at the start of a turn, when a city has built an aquaeduct (t3 sanitary building). It says something along the lines of "What have the Romans ever done for us ... this!" But it does so only in the construction summary screen.

    Edit: Might be that this is only visible when playing Roman factions, I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forlornhop3 View Post
    Same here when they rebel its just standard units even tho they are called helot rebels. no uniques. and yes I meant the bottom of the unit card, that has to be what its there for
    Sorry, I'm not sure about unique units - there probably aren't any. I was just thinking about the thing in parentheses.

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