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    “I have learned a long time ago. When they come up and say this has to be done and has to be done immediately, there is no other way of doing it, you have to sit back and take a deep breath and nine times out of 10 they are not telling the truth,” he said.
    “And this is one of those nine times.”
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/inhofe-n...-has-gone.html

    The Federal Reserve has failed to comply with congressional demands for transparency and disclose the destination of at least $2 trillion dollars in bailout funds, underscoring once again the failure of top down socialism and the folly of trusting the foxes to guard the henhouse.
    Personally I found it really interesting since the rushed LTSB takeover of HBoS in the UK was a similar example of laws being broken and strings being pulled in the interest of "immediate action" to which there is allegedly no alternative.

    Read this and see what you think.

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    Well yeh, paulson promised trasnparency, but it didnt say in the bill he had too, so should he ?

    What i find interesting, We passed a $700 billion bill not 2 to 5 trillion, so why are they taking more out ? Pure corruption.

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    Duh, I'm a total idiot! I'm not going to comment on the important issue being raised here, instead I'm going to say that prisonplanet is a conspiracy site and attempt to discredit the OP that way!

    I'm an idiot!

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    Honestly that is one of the beefs I have with socialism- it caters to the rich elite.

    Shamwow! You'll be saying wow every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empi Rapper View Post
    Duh, I'm a total idiot! I'm not going to comment on the important issue being raised here, instead I'm going to say that prisonplanet is a conspiracy site and attempt to discredit the OP that way!

    I'm an idiot!
    Yeah you don't expect that kind of thing from Alex Jones.

    This is incompetence.
    Last edited by Markas; November 18, 2008 at 05:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marrow View Post
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/inhofe-n...-has-gone.html



    Personally I found it really interesting since the rushed LTSB takeover of HBoS in the UK was a similar example of laws being broken and strings being pulled in the interest of "immediate action" to which there is allegedly no alternative.

    Read this and see what you think.

    This..this is pretty ****ed up. Why isnt this bigger news?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    This..this is pretty ****ed up. Why isnt this bigger news?
    Which one? LTSB-HBoS "merger" or FED refusing to provide receipt for the monies?

    Duh, I'm a total idiot! I'm not going to comment on the important issue being raised here, instead I'm going to say that prisonplanet is a conspiracy site and attempt to discredit the OP that way!

    I'm an idiot!
    Of course prisonplanet.com is a conspiracy site but get this mate, they're not the source, sen. Jim Inhofe is.
    The fact is FED failed to disclose the destination of the bailout funds. You can bash me all you want but this doesn't change the fact that we don't know where the money's gone and who got how much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marrow View Post
    Which one? LTSB-HBoS "merger" or FED refusing to provide receipt for the monies?
    Both. Both make me angry. Their doing capitalism wrong.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    Both. Both make me angry. Their doing capitalism wrong.
    LTSB - HBoS scam was big news in the UK some 6 weeks ago but was sold to the public as necessary to save the biggest mortgage lender in the UK. Get this, HBoS's capital reserves, balance sheet and mortgage share of the market were all superior to LTSB's; in other words LTSB dwarf swallowed HBoS giant. There are two extra mini-bomb-shells in the whole scenario too. Firstly - the combined LTSB-HBoS enterprise would violate anti-monopoly laws in the UK (by acquiring more than 25% of mortgage market) but those were conveniently suspended "just this once". Don't ask me how, don't ask me why but the rulebook was torn by my own government. Sweet. Secondly - LTSB included a breakout close awarding them £120mil in case the merger was stopped. How about that...

    There were obviously voices trying to explain the obvious things - once the crisis has passed we're left with a virtual monopoly and serious risks of creating a mortgage cartel in the UK and secondly that the merger only excacerbates the source of the problem - exposure of the bank to existing mortgages making it even more vulnerable to another mortgage crisis.

    Mark my words: the ghost of British Leyland still haunts this country and in 10 years this merger is guaranteed to be another case study for hideous mismanagement and arrogance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marrow View Post
    Mark my words: the ghost of British Leyland still haunts this country and in 10 years this merger is guaranteed to be another case study for hideous mismanagement and arrogance.
    Now there's a prediction I can accept.
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    Prison Planet makes up news. Give me some info from a real source.

    Using Prison Planet for news is as reliable as using Lord of the Rings for history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Prison Planet makes up news. Give me some info from a real source.

    Using Prison Planet for news is as reliable as using Lord of the Rings for history.
    Sssssh! don't tell them that they'll accuse you of being close-minded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Prison Planet makes up news. Give me some info from a real source.

    Using Prison Planet for news is as reliable as using Lord of the Rings for history.
    Duh, I'm a total idiot! I'm not going to comment on the important issue being raised here, instead I'm going to say that prisonplanet is a conspiracy site and attempt to discredit the OP that way!

    I'm an idiot!

    You obviously didn't see it the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    Prison Planet makes up news. Give me some info from a real source.

    Using Prison Planet for news is as reliable as using Lord of the Rings for history.
    I was waiting for that! prisonplanet does make up some of the news, admittedly, which is why I always triple-check them but this one is sadly true.

    Here it is:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aKr.oY2YKc2g

    Feeling better?

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    Define real news ? news that says mercury in childrens jabs is good for them ? news that says fluoride in our water keeps our teeth clean ?

    Yup i agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin N View Post
    Define real news ? news that says mercury in childrens jabs is good for them ? news that says fluoride in our water keeps our teeth clean ?

    Yup i agree.
    This reminds me of a Mark Twain quote, yet if I said it I would get warned...

    Hey everybody, I finally have to come clean. The government is out to get you, we have been watching you for years. That girl you look at that you hope to see that sits next to you in classes? Yea she's a spy. Your books? We have tracking chips in them, and the computer you bought was a plant, it has a secret webcam so we can watch you all the time. Don't bother looking for it, you won't find it. Only way you can stop it is by destroying your computer. Alex Jones? He's a plant designed to weed out those who know the truth, every time you log on his website you set off a ping and we can find you. That two trillion dollars (so I can keep this topic on post) was money allocated to make all your lives miserable. We pay all those girls who reject you off, and every time you fail a class or get rejected from a job its cause of us. We're real proud of this operation to ruin your lives. We however can't make it to obvious, so at times we have our operatives hire you or go out for you. They are there to spy on you. Only way you can keep hidden from us is to stay in your room with your tin-foil hats and destroy your computer.

    It feels so good to get this off my chest.

    Marrow: That article is completely different than Prisonplanet. The truth is quite simpler, the government won't disclose what they have for collateral for loaning the money for bank. They want to know what the government gets if the banks default on the loan.
    Last edited by Farnan; November 18, 2008 at 06:37 AM.
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    Fail, nice reply to me,You dont actually reply to me, you just like all the rest, say its this type of conspiracy, its that type of conspiracy, Bunch of garbage in otherwords, i would actually like a decent debate with someone but it just doesn happen, You liberals and your morals - a site like prisonplanet, doesnt make its own news, it quotes other news sites and other people and makes an article.

    Which is better ? wake up people, look at what the media tells us...

    news saying mercury is good for us...Do you guys even know what mercury is ?


    Explains fluorides Danger

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    http://www.ada.org/public/topics/fluoride/index.asp

    Seems to disagree with your little article on fluoridation, which uses studies from the 1940s...
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    LOL how brainwashed you are, i want you to read what i have to say, instead of being ignorant, Fluroride doesnt help vs decay, toothpaste is fine for that except you dont ingest toothpaste, Fluoride, causes bone cancer, join problems, bone weakness.

    Why cant we put healthy stuff in water ? stuff that is proven to help us and stuff that is meant to be ingested, like vitamins ? Rather than putting a chemical in with a bogus explanation like it will fight decay ? ok...Which in fact, it causes more dental problems than it solves, Why would companies pay so much money to fluoride our water, when toothpaste, which we buy ourselves does a better a job, and like i said, we dont digest it.

    Let me tell you something, if you go to any pet or handy store, and look at rat poison, you know what the main ingredient is ? you guessed it, Sodium fluoride - It is the most toxic ionic ingredient apart from potassium - And now companies such as dannon are putting sodium fluoride in our bottled water, It is getting harder for us to escape it, And fluoride is one of the main ingredients in anti-deppressents, And that it eliminates aggression and motivation, the fact is 66% of our water has fluoride in, The ADA did tests on fluoride, and it did conclude that it causes brain deficiencys in children, it is sick.

    And fluoride given to animals is just the same, It causes cancer in cows, bone deficiencys, diseases, Same in rats, thats why its used as rat poison, causes cancer and major diseases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin N View Post
    LOL how brainwashed you are, i want you to read what i have to say, instead of being ignorant, Fluroride doesnt help vs decay, toothpaste is fine for that except you dont ingest toothpaste, Fluoride, causes bone cancer, join problems, bone weakness.

    Why cant we put healthy stuff in water ? stuff that is proven to help us and stuff that is meant to be ingested, like vitamins ? Rather than putting a chemical in with a bogus explanation like it will fight decay ? ok...Which in fact, it causes more dental problems than it solves, Why would companies pay so much money to fluoride our water, when toothpaste, which we buy ourselves does a better a job, and like i said, we dont digest it.

    Let me tell you something, if you go to any pet or handy store, and look at rat poison, you know what the main ingredient is ? you guessed it, Sodium fluoride - It is the most toxic ionic ingredient apart from potassium - And now companies such as dannon are putting sodium fluoride in our bottled water, It is getting harder for us to escape it, And fluoride is one of the main ingredients in anti-deppressents, And that it eliminates aggression and motivation, the fact is 66% of our water has fluoride in, The ADA did tests on fluoride, and it did conclude that it causes brain deficiencys in children, it is sick.

    And fluoride given to animals is just the same, It causes cancer in cows, bone deficiencys, diseases, Same in rats, thats why its used as rat poison, causes cancer and major diseases.
    Wow.

    Take a chem course from your community college or something... You're thinking of F very simplisticly...

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