Environmental Hysteria

[JP226]

On the global warming movement not really being about global warming as much as it is about anti corporatism and globalization.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Yeah and the source? A objectiovist who refuses to believe global warming and runs a show that basicly is biased as hell.

Penn Julliette can go himself.

Plus he calls Christians christards. Basically a world class asking for a beating.

Do I like the drum circlers, who basilcy just smoke pot and do nothing but complain about corporate America and vote ron paul and ralph nader? no. However I find Penn and Teller as equally as annoying.

[Platon]

On the global warming movement not really being about global warming as much as it is about anti corporatism and globalization.

Because they are connected..
The capitalist system is about growth and competition - that destroys the environment

[Kiljan Arslan]

actually both socialism and capitalism can lead to destruction of the environment. Just look at North Korea and china to see that goverment control also isn't so much a good thing either.

[horatius]

In 8th grade my science teacher had us sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. He talked about how many people it kills, how it causes blindness (from the bright snow) etc. We all signed it, and then he revealed that we just banned water. That day proved to be a good lesson.

[Kiljan Arslan]

it happaned in tenth grade I was one of the few who actually knew what it was.

[Hunter Makoy]

On the global warming movement not really being about global warming as much as it is about anti corporatism and globalization.

u rock dude! expose the hippy kittens for wat they really r. they attack the corporations, and forget that they are wat keep most of the jobs in the country here.

[Platon]

u rock dude! expose the hippy kittens for wat they really r. they attack the corporations, and forget that they are wat keep most of the jobs in the country here.

not anymore..

[Hunter Makoy]

they r the ones who can keep the most amount of jobs here. the problem is nobody on the left wants to give them a reason to keep jobs here, thus our current situation.

[Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus]

On the global warming movement not really being about global warming as much as it is about anti corporatism and globalization.

The issues are intertwined, What do you think Globalization is fueled by (Literally ) ?

[Hunter Makoy]

The issues are intertwined, What do you think Globalization is fueled by (Literally ) ?

first and foremost it is by the easy exchange of information brought about by the internet. after that it is the general gradual shift in the entire world towards a more capitalist economy. Many more countries are more developed, and working together now, and are not as anti-imports as they were when they were barely developed. The concept of Globalization goes far beyond the comparisons you have drawn.

Over simplification and trying to nail a movement down to one single reason is wat gets claims dismissed by many. To try to say that Globalization is fueled by oil and so there is some kinda quid pro quo is not looking deep enough.

[Nouvelle Vague]

I think it's been widely acknowledged that Patrick Moore has lost all of his credibility. This doco mealy highlights the kind of work he'll be willing to do besides taking money form loggers and PVC corporations.

[The King Of Peasants]

I was going to make a post predicting that this will just be called a tool of the corporations but tiberias beat me to it.

[Nouvelle Vague]

I was going to make a post predicting that this will just be called a tool of the corporations but tiberias beat me to it.

I think the cheering and high-fiving from the PVC executives and lawyers after Moor testified that such chemicals were not harmful tells the whole story.

[Kiljan Arslan]

actually Penn is he belongs to an organization well known to be just that, the Crassus institute.

[Siblesz]

It's stupid to protest against the system... you're just contributing to its cycles. People who go into cities, throwing at McDonalds, and shouting, "Down with corporatism!" don't understand that they're not actually changing anything, that they're just radicalizing the two sides... in order to create real change, one must either grow roots away from the system, or peaceably change the system from within, though the latter seems more and more difficult to do than the former, at this point in time.

[chamaeleo]

On the global warming movement not really being about global warming as much as it is about anti corporatism and globalization.

If this is who you think really represents the research community, then it's no wonder your head is still in the sand. Try not to confuse science with politics, it doesn't flatter you one bit.

[JP226]

If this is who you think really represents the research community, then it's no wonder your head is still in the sand. Try not to confuse science with politics, it doesn't flatter you one bit.

I didn't call them the research community. These are more the sentiments behind the research and what is driving it. And not saying it's the hippies completely, they generally tend to be poor. But it's those clips of the clueless average american who doesn't know any better. It's become the default belief, when you don't know anything about global warming you tend to think it's bad and caused by man. The politicans knowingly or unknowingly can run with that as part of their platform. And of course the politicans enable the unholy alliance of special interest and good feelings, as friedman called, after all it in part got them elected. So with all these pressures and funds as a function of votes begins to push any real analysis of global warming off the tracks and down into the political landscape.

and then the research community... alot of it is politically pressured and or motivated. Then of course let's not forget how many fields climatology research and forecasting actually straddles. And finally the physical challenge that exists to doing a study. In the end you get research that is tainted. And you create the unfortunate, garbage in garbage out conlcusions.

[Valiant Champion]

bah, the research community. The vast majority of it is politically pressured and or motivated. Then of course let's not forget how many fields climatology research and forecasting actually straddles. And finally the physical challenge that exists to doing a study. In the end you get research that is tainted. And you create the unfortunate, garbage in garbage out conlcusions.

It is true most research funding comes from the private sector to further the agenda of private inidividuals or entities. The rest of the funding comes from a Socialist hierarchy funded by taxpayers money.

[Kiljan Arslan]

I didn't call them the research community. These are more the sentiments behind the research and what is driving it. And not saying it's the hippies completely, they generally tend to be poor. But it's those clips of the clueless average american who doesn't know any better. It's become the default belief, when you don't know anything about global warming you tend to think it's bad and caused by man. The politicans knowingly or unknowingly can run with that as part of their platform. And of course the politicans enable the unholy alliance of special interest and good feelings, as friedman called, after all it in part got them elected. So with all these pressures and funds as a function of votes begins to push any real analysis of global warming off the tracks and down into the political landscape.

and then the research community... The vast majority of it is politically pressured and or motivated. Then of course let's not forget how many fields climatology research and forecasting actually straddles. And finally the physical challenge that exists to doing a study. In the end you get research that is tainted. And you create the unfortunate, garbage in garbage out conlcusions.

Yep now we are on the it has to be politically motivated argument.