AI's endless full stack cheat

[sabaku_no_gaara]

Right is there a way to disable this? The Kwarezims and I are at war, I took their 2 north eastern provinces and went for the castle beneath it, however they just keep sending full stack after full stack forcing me to abandon the siege every turn! how is it that I can either afford 1 full stack, or 3 half full stack armies (at the cost of building only 1 thing each turn), yet they have an endless suply of armies they appear to train every new turn? How is it they can train so many men in 1 turn annyway?

[HighLord z0b]

I think it's more about the money script that gives the AI money every turn, it means they can always afford more troops. Remember that a fortress can produce 4 units in a turn so if they have the money it's not hard to be churning out stacks from two or three different castles/cities.

[frederickm]

I know! Its so annoying! Especially when they are down to one fortress, they have 8 stacks around it, I mean where the hell did you get the money.
I'm always being sieged by full stack huscarls or druzhina and all that ridiculous crap. Serious big negative for SS, and the Gryms mod thing pisses me off also, endless handicap on player and super power boosts on SS. Seriously I think its just over done.

[Sargon_of_Akkad]

Agreed. Its incredibly hard to vassalise someone when their military power outstrips your own, and they only own one province.

[Henry707]

I don't know about this - I think the balance of the gameplay really needs this boost or things are just too easy. Maybe you find it tough already but I love the madness of these stacks arriving - I just don't like it when they arrive with all artillery etc

Henri

[frederickm]

I don't know about this - I think the balance of the gameplay really needs this boost or things are just too easy. Maybe you find it tough already but I love the madness of these stacks arriving - I just don't like it when they arrive with all artillery etc

Henri

Sure it makes it more challenging, but the point is, you still in the end destroy them. It just becomes repetitive and lame.

[RPK]

Sure it makes it more challenging, but the point is, you still in the end destroy them. It just becomes repetitive and lame.

True.

Focus should instead be on preventing big empires to grow and making it hard to expand due to rebellions and revolts. The people is waaay to content in SS.

[Gnostiko]

Try 2TPY/Rozanov's tweaks - AI money is usually quite well balanced i.e. no stacks from hell.

[Tacitursa]

The only way around it is Hit there powerhouse regions first hard and fast taking minor cities and castles on the outskirts is only going to cause them financial problems which is countered by the money script. If you take there primary castle/fortresses/citadels they can only produce stacks of useless weaker units.

Ive never played The Kwarezims or middle east factions but im guessing Alamut and Damghan are there military powerhouses. Im sure the other guys could help alot more on which regions to hit first.

[Fridericus Rex]

I had the same problem - I changed recruiting time to 2 turns per unit, except peasants. Now, I do not have to deal with so many stacks at one time.

I also reduced building time for non-military buildings, which has proven useful for the AI and the player (more money for the game).

Just a couple of changes that makes the game better for someone who does not want to fight every turn.

[TheLastPrivate]

I find it fun to mow down stack after stack. It's not the money script but when the AI has only 1 settlement left there is a script to give him a few stacks so a faction won't be wiped out so fast.

In any case, get more and more stacks yuorself and watch the as the desperate defenders fall in the thousands!

[renegade765]

I typically just erase the money script or lower the amount of money the ai receives to 2000.

[gta_140]

I've been using the SSTC and RR sub mods and have not experienced stack after stack. Maybe they changed this?

[TheLastPrivate]

RR severely restricts recruitment so you won't find mass cavalry stacks. However, the AI is scripted to spawn stacks when it only has 1 settlement left, to reduce the effectiveness of blitzing.

[sabaku_no_gaara]

THe kwraezims eventually, stopped attacking me for 2 turns alltough they did keep 3 full stack armies close buy but they where chasing a lone general I had wandering the desert to distract then, but then the Mongols arived and the weirdest thing happened! I imediatly allied with them, and they betrayed me the enxt turn, taking Khiva wich I had taken from the Kwarezims and this screen appeared: Khiva has fallen: The capital of the Kwarezim empire has fallen. IS this coded in the game? No matter who holds it they go after Khiva and the games still sees it as the capital of the Kwarezims?

[gta_140]

Thats why whenever I attack, I hit multiple cities to wipe out the say...last 3 settlements

[Inhuman One]

I erased the money script and only allow 1 unit to be build every turn for any fortress and city level.

My computer doesnt handle 2 full stacks against each other that well, and anything more than that isnt playable even.

[HighLord z0b]

I don't necessarily mind as I like the challenge, however the AI does seem to throw these stacks at you one at a time rather than two or three at once, which would be much harder to defend against, even though it has two or three standing around.

[frederickm]

I don't necessarily mind as I like the challenge, however the AI does seem to throw these stacks at you one at a time rather than two or three at once, which would be much harder to defend against, even though it has two or three standing around.

Uh, I fight defence sieges against ~8 full stacks a turn.

[HighLord z0b]

Really? I play VH/VH...

I think the AI underestimates HA armies, which I mainly use and therefore doesn't throw it's full strength against you. It must use the same math as auto-resolve and "balance of power" for deciding how many units to send.