default guard mode for spearmen and pikemen

**Valiant Champion** · November 08, 2008, 08:48 PM

Has anyone found out how to give pikemen back their guard mode as a default setting at the beginning of the battle??

**Gigantus** · November 10, 2008, 11:52 AM

Not sure if that is desirable, still remember those games when I advanced and wondered why the guys didn't get going properly.

**Valiant Champion** · November 10, 2008, 08:16 PM

Has anyone got the necessary file moddable.

It is definitely not descr_formation or descr_formation_ai. those files specify the overall battle formations at the start of battles and how they will react during the battle not individual units.

Siege units start out in guard mode. However I tried changing the category from infantry to siege on a pike unit and I get a CTD. So thats a dead end there.

There must be a file that specifically list each class or category and list what their default states such as whether they will start out with special ability or not/ Start out in guard mode or not.

<default melee state> in the descr_formation does not apply to individual unit classes.

**Krieg_Boy** · November 10, 2008, 08:36 PM

I realy dont understand what are you talking about... as "guard mode"?

**Gigantus** · November 11, 2008, 02:59 AM

guard mode is basically the special 'spear wall' mode, me thinks.

**Gerin** · November 11, 2008, 02:13 PM

then you put the spear_wall formation first in the EDU I believe.

**Valiant Champion** · November 11, 2008, 02:54 PM

No thats not what I am referring to. I am referring to the guard mode that all units have. Hold formation, Guard mode, hold position etc etc.

Some units start out in guard mode.

In MTW2 vanilla spearmen (ie Armored seargeants and spear militia) and pikemen start out in their battles in guard mode/ hold position whatever you want to call it.

In Kingdoms they do not.

Siege units still start out in a battle in guard mode however.

**Condottiere SOG** · November 13, 2008, 01:33 AM

it is called 'phalanx' for pikemen and halberdiers in the EDU attributes. 'shield_wall' for other spear/shield combination units. i don't recommend it for halberdiers.

**Valiant Champion** · November 13, 2008, 05:31 PM

I am not talking about special abilities. I am talking about guard mode. Cavalry, missile and melee troops all have the toggle feature guard mode.

I wont to be able to have spearmen units start out in guard mode in Kingdoms like they do in MTW2 vanilla.