8 year old shoots father, tenant

[Justinian]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/08/...ef=mpstoryview

"It was such a tragedy," said the boy's defense attorney, Benjamin Brewer. "You have two people dead; you have an 8-year-old in jail. It tugs at the heart strings. It's a shocker, no doubt about it."

On Friday, a judge determined there was probable cause to show that the boy fatally shot his father, Vincent Romero, 29, and Timothy Romans, 39, of San Carlos with a .22-caliber rifle. The boy faces two counts of premeditated murder.

Melnick said officers arrived at Romero's home within minutes of the shooting Wednesday. They found one victim just outside the front door and the other dead in an upstairs room.

I don't even know what to say. This highlights not only issues with the legal system, but how can you still be against strict gun control?

[Plebeian]

I don't even know what to say. This highlights not only issues with the legal system, but how can you still be against strict gun control?

And how exactly did the kid get a hold of the gun?

[Justinian]

His father must have had the 22 cal.

[The King Of Peasants]

He obviously didn't buy it so the only one to blame would probably be the father. The most basic argument against gun control is simple and was argued for the last 230 years guns keep the government from achieving total tyranny.

What we need is better education about weapons.

[Twfan55]

He obviously didn't buy it so the only one to blame would probably be the father. The most basic argument against gun control is simple and was argued for the last 230 years guns keep the government from achieving total tyranny.

What we need is better education about weapons.

+1, this is the result of a lack of responsibility.


Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes. -Ghandi

[LoZz]

forget gun control.

an 8 year old boy murdered his own father and i guess was a friend of the fathers and all you can think about is gun control?! i mean given where they found the bodies it was clearly more then one shot. which to my mind rules out an accident. an 8 year old just murdered someone and not just any one person but his own father, wtf?!

[Justinian]

Gun control isn't the only issue that comes from this it's just the only one I can address because of how shocked I am.

[The King Of Peasants]

Gun control would not have done anything to stop this. I am pretty surprised an 8 year old could kill 2 people with a 22. honestly. First of all a bolt action indoors(can't get why they didn't intervene) second of all you pretty much need a headshot.

Of course I am forgetting the moral side I can't really think of a motive to even think about something like this at that age definitely a tragedy as the father and other man are dead and the kid's life is screwed.

[Surgeon]

Gun control would not have done anything to stop this. I am pretty surprised an 8 year old could kill 2 people with a 22. honestly. First of all a bolt action indoors(can't get why they didn't intervene) second of all you pretty much need a headshot.

A .22 can kill easily.

Seriously though... what's with the recent influx of 8 year olds on killing sprees?

Because its a result of a careless father...why should everyone else be punished because of stupidity of leaving a weapon where some kid could get ahold of it. If going to restrict things excessively based on people's stupidity we are going to have to restrict a hell of alot of things. Besides since it is a case of premeditated murder he would have/could have just used another weapon, a knife, an axe, a hammer etc all while his father was a sleep.

Or rat poison. Forgot the details, but there was this "similar" case where a 7yo girl put ~eight pills of rat poison into her dad's coffee because she was being grounded. He died instantly after one sip. Court ruled that it wasn't murder because she didn't know what she was doing... until she tried to kill her mother in the same way the following year.

[Cluny the Scourge]

Gun control would not have done anything to stop this.

You seriously think an 8 year-old child could kill two grown men WITHOUT a gun? How, exactly? Kung-fu?

[danzig]

You seriously think an 8 year-old child could kill two grown men WITHOUT a gun? How, exactly? Kung-fu?

When they are asleep? When they dont expect it? By poison or some other hidden method. If someone is set on killing someone even a kid there are numerous ways to do it.

[danzig]

I don't even know what to say. This highlights not only issues with the legal system, but how can you still be against strict gun control?

Because its a result of a careless father...why should everyone else be punished because of stupidity of leaving a weapon where some kid could get ahold of it. If going to restrict things excessively based on people's stupidity we are going to have to restrict a hell of alot of things. Besides since it is a case of premeditated murder he would have/could have just used another weapon, a knife, an axe, a hammer etc all while his father was a sleep.

[Dr. Croccer]

The US needs to educate parents on guns.

[André Masséna]

I don't even know what to say. This highlights not only issues with the legal system, but how can you still be against strict gun control?

How can I still be against Gun Control?

Well, seeing how it's illegal for an 8 year old to purchase a rifle, he must have stolen it from someone and used it illegaly.

That's gun control for you.

[Hunter Makoy]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/08/...ef=mpstoryview

I don't even know what to say. This highlights not only issues with the legal system, but how can you still be against strict gun control?

oooo i was waiting for this to get on here.

anyway. how does stricter gun control have anything to do with this. he used his fathers gun, he didn't get the gun himself. unless ur saying the father shouldn't have a gun because he has a kid, which would be ridiculous.

its more that his father should have made sure his son didn't get a hold of the gun and the ammo then any type of gun legislation.

this is just grasping at straws.

Or rat poison. Forgot the details, but there was this "similar" case where a 7yo girl put ~eight pills of rat poison into her dad's coffee because she was being grounded. He died instantly after one sip. Court ruled that it wasn't murder because she didn't know what she was doing... until she tried to kill her mother in the same way the following year.

i've never head that. but i doubt he died instantly. most rat poison uses a delay to help control bait shyness.

[Kiljan Arslan]

nope just illustrates that parents need to be more responsible.

[Markas]

It certainly is a question of gun control i.e keeping your damn guns locked up properly.

[Justinian]

Any parent who is going to leave a .22 cal rifle in a place where his 8 year old son can get it is too irresponsible to own a gun.

Why does a civilian need to own any rifle?

[Surgeon]

i've never head that. but i doubt he died instantly. most rat poison uses a delay to help control bait shyness.

Well technically it was eight or so pills. Perhaps they also dissolved in the coffee such that they had a more instant effect. Either way, usually "died instantly" means that the victim was dead by the time the ambulance arrived, so he may have lingered for a while.

Why does a civilian need to own any rifle?

Because they want to. What's the problem?

[Martin N]

Any parent who is going to leave a .22 cal rifle in a place where his 8 year old son can get it is too irresponsible to own a gun.

Why does a civilian need to own any rifle?

You are supposed to keep your gun under tight Steel lock, Unless he left it lying around, an 8 year old should not of been able to get it, Gun control has nothing to do with it, Gun safety is the issue.

Every citizen should have a Gun, Because it preserves freedom, And upholds the right to form a militia to stop tyranny.