What do you think of the level of Racism in U.S.A?

**Keravnos** · November 07, 2008, 08:49 PM

Just heard in the news that there were some clashes in the South of the U.S.A. when some African American students wanted to sit by a tree.
Couldn't find the direct link, but found the ones below...

http://en.afrik.com/article12381.html

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y...e-aux-usa_news

No, I DON'T blame the Southern U.S. Nor its people Caucasian or non. "Sweet home Alabama" is one of my all time favorite songs and I know its lyrics. These were clearly criminals and will definitely get what they deserve. However, from the posts I read, I fear that there is subliminal racism that translates itself into other kinds of attacks. Nobody will come out and say they are racist, but they will try to blame President Elect Obama for other things, aka whether he is Muslim or Communist when in fact they simply can't tolerate the color of his skin.

Do you think there is a "hidden" racism inherent in some of those attacks?

**Farnan** · November 07, 2008, 08:53 PM

That was about a year ago...

**Foreign Fruitcake** · November 07, 2008, 09:03 PM

I have great confidence in President Elect Obama. We have just witnessed a non violent revolution.

**Captain Jin** · November 07, 2008, 09:05 PM

I'm gonna say that no matter what people will be racist. But I'd say compared to Europe we're actually better off. Not that we don't have our issues with our minorities, or so it goes, but Europeans have deeper hatreds toward foreigners that some just don't outwardly claim. Like I know in Czech republic theyre not a fan or Russians, or even Ukranians, so really anywhere you're giong to run into racism.

I don't consider myself racist but, then, even having black friends, it's ridiculous to see how many fit into the steroetype, even if they are my friends it's kinda like wtf?

**Erik** · November 08, 2008, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Jin

I'm gonna say that no matter what people will be racist. But I'd say compared to Europe we're actually better off.

I think Europe has more racism, but I still think America has a bigger racism problem.

Maybe with their newly elected moksi president, Americans will finally learn to deal with racism in a more relaxed manner.

**Gauvin** · November 07, 2008, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Keravnos

No, I DON'T blame the Southern U.S. Nor its people Caucasian or non. "Sweet home Alabama" is one of my all time favorite songs and I know its lyrics.

Lol, that's funny, man.

Well, there is racism in America, but not as much as Reverend Wright would have you believe. I do think America is now less racist than Europe.

**medivalmatt** · November 07, 2008, 10:14 PM

Old News..

**Hunter Makoy** · November 07, 2008, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Gauvin

Lol, that's funny, man.

Well, there is racism in America, but not as much as Reverend Wright would have you believe. I do think America is now less racist than Europe.

we certainly r less racist, atleast in the regards as to which we let it affect our decisions, which is the main thing that matters. most people like, like Wright and Sharpton, are the real proponents of racism. if there is no racism, there is no excuse. one of the biggest reasons y racism is still around is from people believing it is still around. Wright and Sharpton want to instil in the black community that we are still in the 1960s. they do more to hold back African Americans then any white man today could do.

in many regards this search for racism, this "well it might not be blatant, but could it be hidden?" type of thinking only helps fuel racism itself.

**foxnds** · November 08, 2008, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Hunter Makoy

we certainly r less racist, atleast in the regards as to which we let it affect our decisions, which is the main thing that matters. most people like, like Wright and Sharpton, are the real proponents of racism. if there is no racism, there is no excuse. one of the biggest reasons y racism is still around is from people believing it is still around. Wright and Sharpton want to instil in the black community that we are still in the 1960s. they do more to hold back African Americans then any white man today could do.

in many regards this search for racism, this "well it might not be blatant, but could it be hidden?" type of thinking only helps fuel racism itself.

I completely agree.

Originally Posted by the_mango55

That's not a black vs white issue though, It's an issue of social class.

Sure, black people are somewhat more likely to be in poverty than whites, but whites in poverty aren't any better off than blacks in poverty.

Exactly its profiling when a black student at a university gets added point for being black on his SAT scores and a asain man gets A reduce score its just wrong.

**Surgeon** · November 07, 2008, 10:19 PM

Not sure just how profound racism is in "Europe", as some areas are decidedly more racist than others. However, I'm willing to bet there's going to be a spike of racism in the US now that Obama's been elected, especially if he screws up. Racism was quite pronounced before, and it can only get worse now.

**Tiberius Tosi** · November 07, 2008, 10:41 PM

I don't think there is much question of us being less racist than we once were (hate crimes are still high but perhaps not as high as they used to be), but rather this is due to us becoming more moral people or just supressing it and keeping it to ourselves is a matter of debate in my opinion.

**Icefrisco** · November 07, 2008, 11:00 PM

I only got concerned about racism around the week before the election because I was afraid of the Bradley Effect. However, I guess there isn't nearly as much racism as there seems to be in America. Honestly, I think theres plenty of more sexism than racism. Plenty of people come up with bs excuses for not liking strong female politicans. Plenty of people I know openly admitted one reason they liked Palin was because she was hot. Sexism is far from over in America because American culture does not deem sexism to be wrong. For some reason blacks are always considered before women. Abolitionism started before the suffrage movement. Blacks got the right to vote before women. Also, the civil rights movement started before the feminist movement.

Hopefully, now that Obama is president-elect (and hopefully president) we can get rid of our rampant sexism in our society. Now that racism is overcome we can overcome sexism.

**Hunter Makoy** · November 07, 2008, 11:43 PM

considering all those movements were started by the groups them selves, maybe the feminists should have organized sooner.

**Keravnos** · November 08, 2008, 02:39 AM

A crime like that never gets old. It has to be out there for people to see just how down low racism can take people. Thank you all for your opinion, though. If anything, the election result seem to suggest that people are judged by the valor of their character, not their color.

**boofhead** · November 08, 2008, 03:18 AM

Now that a black guy has become a President-Elect, let's just see if affirmative action programs for black guys and gals are abolished in the US. That will tell us all just how racist the US is. If it abolishes them, it's not racist. If it keeps them: it's racist - against whites.

**Keravnos** · November 08, 2008, 04:04 AM

The problem is that there isn't an equal playing field, to this day. If the starting point of Blacks and Whites in U.S. was the exact same, then you would be absolutely right. However, it is not. I remember a long time ago reading a report that mentioned that an average black household has 1/3 less income than a white household. If this is the case today, I think that Affirmative action is still needed.

**boofhead** · November 08, 2008, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Keravnos

The problem is that there isn't an equal playing field, to this day. If the starting point of Blacks and Whites in U.S. was the exact same, then you would be absolutely right. However, it is not. I remember a long time ago reading a report that mentioned that an average black household has 1/3 less income than a white household. If this is the case today, I think that Affirmative action is still needed.

So when does it end? That is the pertinent question. When a black guy becomes President? Will it ever end, this playing on miseries of the past?

**the_mango55** · November 08, 2008, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Keravnos

The problem is that there isn't an equal playing field, to this day. If the starting point of Blacks and Whites in U.S. was the exact same, then you would be absolutely right. However, it is not. I remember a long time ago reading a report that mentioned that an average black household has 1/3 less income than a white household. If this is the case today, I think that Affirmative action is still needed.

That's not a black vs white issue though, It's an issue of social class.

Sure, black people are somewhat more likely to be in poverty than whites, but whites in poverty aren't any better off than blacks in poverty.

**Erik** · November 08, 2008, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by the_mango55

That's not a black vs white issue though, It's an issue of social class.

Sure, black people are somewhat more likely to be in poverty than whites, but whites in poverty aren't any better off than blacks in poverty.

One big difference: most blacks in America started out poor because of slavery.
Most whites came to America relatively rich, and at least by their own choice.

At the very least, they should have offered the former slaves children a decent education payed for by the former slave owners.

**Trey** · November 08, 2008, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Erik

One big difference: most blacks in America started out poor because of slavery.
Most whites came to America relatively rich, and at least by their own choice.

At the very least, they should have offered the former slaves children a decent education payed for by the former slave owners.

That is absolute

. Three generations ago, my mom's side of the family wasn't even in this country, and they came here literally with nothing, as they were fleeing the Russians in WW1. My Dad's side wasn't well off either. Now thankfully my grandpa through a mix of luck and hardwork made money.

They both started off dirt poor, much worse off relative to most blacks today. Although being white, there were still serious cultural barriers they had to cross.

So no Erik, in all honesty most whites came to America because they had lost everything.

And as for the last part-nice joke. Most whites didn't even have an education, let alone a 'decent' one. What a joke