The other side of guns you NEVER hear.

[Thanatos]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...6?OpenDocument

An intended rape victim shot and killed her attacker this morning in Cape Girardeau when he broke into her home to rape her a second time, police said.

The 57-year-old woman shot Ronnie W. Preyer, 47, a registered sex offender, in the chest with a shotgun when he broke through her locked basement door.

The woman told police he was the same man who raped her several days earlier. Officials do not intend to seek charges against her.

In the first incident, the woman heard glass breaking in her basement about midnight on Saturday. She went to leave the house, and the man attacked when she opened the front door. He punched her in the face and then forced her into a bedroom, where he raped her, said H. Morley Swingle, prosecuting attorney in Cape Girardeau County.

The victim reported the crime to police, and her landlord repaired the broken window.

She was home alone again Friday about 2:15 a.m. when Preyer broke the same basement window. The victim was awake watching television, when Preyer switched off the electricity to her house.

She tried to call 911, but couldn't because the power was off. She got a shotgun and waited as the man began banging on the basement door. She fired when Preyer came crashing through the door. When Preyer collapsed, the woman escaped and went to a neighbor's home, where she called police. Officers, who arrived within a minute, found a bleeding Preyer stumbling away from the house. He was taken to St. Francis Medical Center, where he died several hours later.

Swingle said the victim identified Preyer as the attacker in both incidents. Preyer, of Jackson, Mo., had wet caulking from the recently repaired basement window on his clothing when he was shot.

"I will not be filing any sort of charge against this 57-year-old woman, who was clearly justified under the law in shooting this intruder in her home," Swingle said.

All of you people saying that we keep guns for stupid reasons, or that we'll never ever have to use it, can kindly keep quiet now. You don't know if you'll ever have to use your guns, and you hope you don't have to, but doggone it, it's there if you ever have to.

It's great to hear about stories like this that the media never ever talks about, since they only care to display negative reports when it comes to firearms.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Good for her he was assualting her in her own home and it was her right.

[Carach]

Good for her he was assualting her in her own home and it was her right.

this, unfortunately thanatos, most gun crime doesnt occur when people are breaking into ur home.

[Lord Anubis]

Finally a story about putting guns to good use.

[Richard]

Finally a story about putting guns to good use.

But is that because of media bias, or because the ratio of bad use to good use is about a million-to-one? I have no idea where you'd find statistics on that sort of thing, but I'd *imagine* that the amount of gun murders significantly outweigh the number of self-defence (note: inter-gang firefights not included) killings. I suppose without guns, many of those gun crimes would inevitably be committed with baseball bats and knives, but then again, so would many of the self-defence killings.

Switzerland is a very small country with the highest average standard of living and education per person.

Actually that's a misconception from when Switzerland WAS those things for a very long time. It's fallen behind the likes of Canada and Norway in that index (I know the thing you're referring to, just can't think of the name) for a long time now

[Gelgoog]

But is that because of media bias, or because the ratio of bad use to good use is about a million-to-one? I have no idea where you'd find statistics on that sort of thing, but I'd *imagine* that the amount of gun murders significantly outweigh the number of self-defence (note: inter-gang firefights not included) killings.

actually its the other way around. defensive gun usage is overwhelmingly more productive in detering crime and homicide.

[The Good]

I'm glad she did this. I would too, if pitted in the same situation.

[Player989random]

Good for her, and great for guns

BTW:Who the hell rapes a 57 year old women?

Don't answer. I remembered that the point is the feeling of power and control, not pleasure.

[Barry]

BTW:Who the hell rapes a 57 year old women?

And attempts to do it a SECOND time!!??

[touchmaster]

Good for her, this is what our founding fathers wanted us to use firearms for, to protect our family and property; not shoot at innocent people walking down the street just because they are wearing a red shirt, etc.

[Martin N]

Good for her, this is what our founding fathers wanted us to use firearms for, to protect our family and property; not shoot at innocent people walking down the street just because they are wearing a red shirt, etc.

Just to clarify, the founding fathers actually meant the law for the people to bear and maintain militias incase the government would disarm the people and impose rule on them, But of course it also means self defense.

But under obama gun laws will change, many americans i bet dont even know what the bill of rights, or the 2nd amendment is so laws will try to stop people owning guns, or buying them, so if i was you, and you dont own a gun, i would buy one asap

[Manoflooks]

but wouldnt you rather have someone raped than have an innocent killed?

[Ciabhán]

Man indicted in "horrific" deaths



The Associated Press • November 13, 2008

CADIZ - A western Kentucky man was indicted Wednesday in the slayings of three children and a violent sexual assault on their mother - a case the prosecutor described as "horrific."

The Trigg County grand jury indicted Kevin W. Dunlap on three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder, said Commonwealth's Attorney G.L. Ovey.
Dunlap, of Hopkinsville, was also indicted on four counts of kidnapping, first-degree rape, burglary and evidence tampering.
State police said the woman was raped by an assailant who stabbed her three children - a 17- and 14-year-old girl and a 5-year-old boy - at their home near the Fort Campbell Army post.
"There are aggravating circumstances many times over in this case," Ovey said Wednesday. Ovey said he has not worked a case "any more horrific than this one."
Dunlap's attorney, James Gibson, did not return a call Wednesday seeking comment.
Dunlap, 36, remains in the Christian County Jail.
A state police detective testified at a hearing last month that the mother was approached by a man with a gun while she was doing yard work.
State Police Detective Jerry Jones said the mother was raped before the children came home. The children were bound and gagged, Jones said, and had stab and slash wounds. The home was set on fire.




So the above story is fairly brutal. Three children killed is a hell of a tragedy no? Funny I thought only guns had the ability to kill groups of people. No guns used. Please ban knives and binding materials and fire.

[Heinz Guderian]

Still need stricter controls on who the retailers sell weapons too. I read that the 3-4(?) day backgroung check was a miracle in legislation when it came into effect in terms of actually passing (someone correct me if i'm wrong). Perhaps things are different here in Britain, very very few people have weapons in their homes, and i'm glad even though i'm happy this woman had something to defend herself with.


Glad the guy is dead.

[Thanatos]

It's not so much that I'm asking for easier gun legislation or anything, it's just that I'm so sick of everyone thinking guns = bad, just because that's all the media likes to focus on.

[Heinz Guderian]

It's not so much that I'm asking for easier gun legislation or anything, it's just that I'm so sick of everyone thinking guns = bad, just because that's all the media likes to focus on.

when i visit my pop and his 28 year old french/spanish/czech (cant remember) girlfriend in Dubai, he takes me to gun clubs and wants me to learn about weapons. I must admit, i get a bit of a woody. I do enjoy it. But the ease of which you can buy a gun is astonishing. We went to get some shells for one of his many boomsticks and when we got to the place, there were like 16,17 and 18 year olds in groups browsing the weapons. It was like a school day out.

My father is a retired British Army Major (was promoted to Lt-Col and retired) so i can understand he knows about weapon safety and its responsibilities so i wouldnt worry about his buying a weapon.

But then there are those Versace-wearing 18 year olds who were waving aroung Glocks and giggling. I wouldnt want them to have guns.

[Thanatos]

when i visit my pop and his 28 year old french/spanish/czech (cant remember) girlfriend in Dubai, he takes me to gun clubs and wants me to learn about weapons. I must admit, i get a bit of a woody. I do enjoy it. But the ease of which you can buy a gun is astonishing. We went to get some shells for one of his many boomsticks and when we got to the place, there were like 16,17 and 18 year olds in groups browsing the weapons. It was like a school day out.

My father is a retired British Army Major (was promoted to Lt-Col and retired) so i can understand he knows about weapon safety and its responsibilities so i wouldnt worry about his buying a weapon.

But then there are those Versace-wearing 18 year olds who were waving aroung Glocks and giggling. I wouldnt want them to have guns.

I've been to gun shows before, and to be honest, we don't have any of those kinds of people. Everyone goes to have a good time looking and browsing guns, but it's still serious and safety-minded as hell.

[Heinz Guderian]

I've been to gun shows before, and to be honest, we don't have any of those kinds of people. Everyone goes to have a good time looking and browsing guns, but it's still serious and safety-minded as hell.

do you guys have to have certain weapons safety training before a weapon is sold? Could you explain to me how easy it is to get a gun in Cali? eg. i'm an 18 year old who is looking for a pistol. what do i have to do over there?

edit: assume i'm a US citizen with valid photo id.

[Gelgoog]

do you guys have to have certain weapons safety training before a weapon is sold? Could you explain to me how easy it is to get a gun in Cali? eg. i'm an 18 year old who is looking for a pistol. what do i have to do over there?

edit: assume i'm a US citizen with valid photo id.

sorry you have to be 21 to buy a pistol. At age 18 you can legally buy rifles and shotguns. All you have to do assuming your a citizen is fill out a form, they then call the ATF to make sure your not a felon or banned for any other reason, and you can then walk out with your weapon. If you have a CCW licence they dont even have to call it in.

[eddy_purpus]

It's not so much that I'm asking for easier gun legislation or anything, it's just that I'm so sick of everyone thinking guns = bad, just because that's all the media likes to focus on.

and by that, more murders are produced as victims arent well secured ...