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    Default The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    As I'm taking a look at response to Obama's victory all over the US, I can pretty much conclude that the Republican Party is divided right now. While there is a strong movement behind Obama that comes from every corner of American society, it's the Republican party that sees division among its supporters.

    Is there a chance that there will be a Republican secession that will result in the creation of a viable, popular third party to add that extra dimension to American politics? Because I also get the feeling that there are some who voted Obama just because McCain wasn't close enough to their Republican ideals, and would've voted for another candidate if there had been a choice.

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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    I don't think the Republican's base split at all because of Mccains more moderate views, Palin ensured that. They just failed to capture groups who would usually vote republican by default but who this time were swayed by Obama's charisma.
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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    As I'm taking a look at response to Obama's victory all over the US, I can pretty much conclude that the Republican Party is divided right now. While there is a strong movement behind Obama that comes from every corner of American society, it's the Republican party that sees division among its supporters.

    Is there a chance that there will be a Republican secession that will result in the creation of a viable, popular third party to add that extra dimension to American politics? Because I also get the feeling that there are some who voted Obama just because McCain wasn't close enough to their Republican ideals, and would've voted for another candidate if there had been a choice.
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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    Short answer -- no.

    No chance of a fracture within the Democrats plus a seperate remake to the Republican party. People will simply need to decide what the new party shall be. Based on those remaining in power, this may mean an even more socially conservative party.

    The rebuilding could appeal to blacks and hispanics that reject the marriage, sex, and education issues within the current Democrat party. If this happens, both parties will be fiscally liberal big government parties. The difference will only center on the mentioned social issues. This may mean a libertarian leaning Republican such as I will be without an effective party to campaign for in the next couple of congressional elections.

    Since I am still a bit grumpy --- this may opinion may change in a few days.

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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Prince View Post

    The rebuilding could appeal to blacks and hispanics that reject the marriage, sex, and education issues within the current Democrat party. If this happens, both parties will be fiscally liberal big government parties. The difference will only center on the mentioned social issues. This may mean a libertarian leaning Republican such as I will be without an effective party to campaign for in the next couple of congressional elections.

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    I really wish it would happen, but it won't. Here's to hoping that some people will actually start listening to Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    I really wish it would happen, but it won't. Here's to hoping that some people will actually start listening to Ron Paul.

    Ron Paul believes in the gold standard and protectionist trade policies. This alone creates a problem for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Prince View Post
    Ron Paul believes in the gold standard and protectionist trade policies. This alone creates a problem for me.
    Are those the only two things you think of with him? I don't necessarily agree with all of his economic views either, but unlike most people, his views are rather flexible - as long as they're constitutional.
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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    Are those the only two things you think of with him? I don't necessarily agree with all of his economic views either, but unlike most people, his views are rather flexible - as long as they're constitutional.
    I had said:

    Ron Paul believes in the gold standard and protectionist trade policies. This alone creates a problem for me.

    Sufficient, not exclusive. Ron Paul will not be the cause or reason for a resurrgant GOP. As much as I want a party of small government and individual choice -- I do not want an isolationist and protectionist party either.

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    There is a group of Senators that could form a neo-Bull Moose party; Luger, McCain, Hagel, Specter, Sanders (Liebermann from the other side). Thats 6 core members out of ~40 total republicans, and others might jump on the bandwagon. It is possible, but unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Prince View Post
    Ron Paul believes in the gold standard and protectionist trade policies. This alone creates a problem for me.
    Ron Paul does NOT believe in golden standard! he believes in debt-free money, elemination of the Fed and its replacement by Central Bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Czar View Post
    Ron Paul does NOT believe in golden standard! he believes in debt-free money, elemination of the Fed and its replacement by Central Bank.
    Ron Paul speech in Congress as a clear support of the Gold Standard

    HE has always opposed fiat currency -- translation commodity backed currency. If you want to call it something else, fine -- it is still some variation of the gold standard.

    bte -- replacement of the Fed by a Central Bank is a meaningless phrase. The Federal Reserve is a Central Bank.
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    Default Re: The potential start of multi-partisan politics in the USA?

    I'm still cleaning the out of my carpet that was ejected from my bowls after seeing how bangin' Sarah Palin looked last night at John McCain's little defeat rally. Man - I'd love to put a couple more retarded babies up in there.
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