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    Default A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    Recent figting along the DR Congo-Rawanda border has displaced about 250,000 people. Whilst the crisis has caused quite a stir in diplomatic circles, and UN secretary general Ban Ki-Moon has travelled to the country, the world's attention has, predictably, remained elsewhere. article

    Have we got our priorities straight? Is this crisis really less important than efigees of Obama and Palin? Are the world's media there to inform or entertain?

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    Aid has been sent, it obviously wont be enough. Sending troops is a nightmarish scenario in the jungle. No one has the stomach for it.

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    Wth i havent even heard of this.
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    Yesterday the 27 Foreign Ministers of of the European Union have met in Mareseiile but for now they don't want to send soldier...
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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    So, have you sent any $$$ yet to an aid fund??

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    Africa is experiencing brutal inter-whatever's around at the time- conflict? Stop the presses, we gotta get this on page one!

    Between Aids, malaria, starvation, diamonds, tribal hatred, poverty, starvation(yes twice), rape squads, genocide, dismemberment, and many many more things how can you expect anyone with tears for africa not to have already shed them all?

    Sub sarahan africa is not our job to fix.

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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    UN forces left, chaos ensues.

    Ive heard of this recent development, but really, Darfur and now this...

    Africa is screwed for a long time. Except Botswana, they know what they are doing.
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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscariott View Post
    Africa is experiencing brutal inter-whatever's around at the time- conflict? Stop the presses, we gotta get this on page one!

    Between Aids, malaria, starvation, diamonds, tribal hatred, poverty, starvation(yes twice), rape squads, genocide, dismemberment, and many many more things how can you expect anyone with tears for africa not to have already shed them all?

    Sub sarahan africa is not our job to fix.
    Harsh as it may sound, I agree. These people are worse than muslim extremists. All they can do is fight fight fight. It's an absolutely chanceless corner of the world. Let them weed each other out so they can start with a clean slate or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Harsh as it may sound, I agree. These people are worse than muslim extremists. All they can do is fight fight fight. It's an absolutely chanceless corner of the world. Let them weed each other out so they can start with a clean slate or something...
    It's primitive tribalism. And they won't 'weed each other out', because the process in ongoing and has been for thousands of years. It has been successfully snuffed for the most part among these people via two mediums.....

    Can I even bring myself to mention them here?....such evil words they are...words that describe events that have made the lives of millions of blacks much better......evil evil words like 'slavery' and 'colonialism'.

    Cultures change when they interact with other cultures. When places like the Congo, or Angola, or Sierra Leone, or other such hell-holes are left to themselves out of some kind of fake "freedom for all/independence/culture is inviolable" attitude, then those countries will never go anywhere.

    I can assure you now that some ignorant tribalistic murderer and rapist probably doesn't have the education to realize what is good for his kids. If he even thinks about them beyond the notion of a potential asset provider.

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    The crises do get some media attention but honestly i don`t care. And i do think Norway spend to much money on aid both in this situation and on oters.

    Don`t get me wrong i 100% support Norway's support of let say Iceland that recently found it self in trouble but some African country on the oter side of the world ? no don`t care.

    I believe we have a responsibility to help aouer neighbors but not evryone evry were.

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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    sure does get media attention and more:

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,...762446,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscariott View Post
    Africa is experiencing brutal inter-whatever's around at the time- conflict? Stop the presses, we gotta get this on page one!

    Between Aids, malaria, starvation, diamonds, tribal hatred, poverty, starvation(yes twice), rape squads, genocide, dismemberment, and many many more things how can you expect anyone with tears for africa not to have already shed them all?

    Sub sarahan africa is not our job to fix.
    amen

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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    It's actually a big thing in our news. Then again we Belgians are somewhat more involved than the rest of you.

    In a nutshell, a political extremist of Tutsi background called Nkunda has virtually seceded from Kabila's government in the east of Congo. The guy is backed by the Tutsi governments of Rwanda and probably Burundi. The guy is known to be cruel and called the Butcher of Kisangani. But atm it seems it's actually the Congolese army that's doing most of the raping and murdering, but info is rather unreliable.
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    These are the same bastards (Hutu Rwandans) who genocided the Tutsi' in Rwanda in 1994, the UN had soldiers in Rwanda at that time, but they didn't do ANYTHING of use, they just pretended to be guarding the Tutsi' then withdrew and took all the white people with them and left the Tutsi' rebel forces to deal with it. It's pretty much the League of Nations all over again, only on a larger scale, and more pathetic.

    EDIT: It's a good thing Belgium is doing something, they did cause most of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraud View Post
    It's actually a big thing in our news. Then again we Belgians are somewhat more involved than the rest of you.
    Good thing the Congo is no longer Belgiums problem anymore!
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    Default Re: A quarter of a million people displaced in DR of Congo. World takes no notice.

    I have a book about some mercs who crushed rebels in the Congo in the 60s. They pacified the eastern portions of the country, pretty much by themselves. How many mercs were required for this task do you think? Many thousands? Nope. About 200. They f ing crushed the murderous rebels, who had tens of thousands, with very few casualties, over a period of a couple of years. Congolese rebels are traditionally dimwits. They don't know how to fight, or organize, and have little ability except murdering, disfiguring, raping etc.

    This world has to stop being so PC and suffering trembling knee syndrome over every decision FFS.

    Send in a single mechanized battalion from any modern nation and kill the bastards. Problem resolved. But does anyone have the balls to do it? No. Because someone might cry 'neo-colonialism! Outrage!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    I have a book about some mercs who crushed rebels in the Congo in the 60s. They pacified the eastern portions of the country, pretty much by themselves. How many mercs were required for this task do you think? Many thousands? Nope. About 200. They f ing crushed the murderous rebels, who had tens of thousands, with very few casualties, over a period of a couple of years. Congolese rebels are traditionally dimwits. They don't know how to fight, or organize, and have little ability except murdering, disfiguring, raping etc.

    This world has to stop being so PC and suffering trembling knee syndrome over every decision FFS.

    Send in a single mechanized battalion from any modern nation and kill the bastards. Problem resolved. But does anyone have the balls to do it? No. Because someone might cry 'neo-colonialism! Outrage!'
    Hear hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    I have a book about some mercs who crushed rebels in the Congo in the 60s. They pacified the eastern portions of the country, pretty much by themselves. How many mercs were required for this task do you think? Many thousands? Nope. About 200. They f ing crushed the murderous rebels, who had tens of thousands, with very few casualties, over a period of a couple of years. Congolese rebels are traditionally dimwits. They don't know how to fight, or organize, and have little ability except murdering, disfiguring, raping etc.
    Ya, the book is "Congo Mercenary" by Mike Hoare, a mercenary captain during Congo crisis in 1960s (the Simba rebels). He used battalian strategy and storming the eastern provinces of Congo.

    By the way, not just Congolese rebels but nearly all Black African rebels have that nasty practice (as the book states, it is a tradition of African warfare); in fact, even government troops did that.

    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Send in a single mechanized battalion from any modern nation and kill the bastards. Problem resolved. But does anyone have the balls to do it? No. Because someone might cry 'neo-colonialism! Outrage!'
    The fact is that no government want to risk a political critic by sending their troops into a worthless country; besides, the problems of eastern provinces of Congo are more a result of its neighbours' problem (Rwanda is the cause of recent unrest, before that Uganda was the bastard) and is very difficult to solve without an agreement from all nations around that area.

    About the aid; the problem is like all warzone - no matter how much aid you send in, most of them are either robbing by government troops or rebels. Common people actually got very little from aid.

    That is why I always said if you truly want to help those innecont, putting bullets on rebels/government troops is the best way (they deserve a bullet on their head anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Ya, the book is "Congo Mercenary" by Mike Hoare, a mercenary captain during Congo crisis in 1960s (the Simba rebels). He used battalian strategy and storming the eastern provinces of Congo.
    Ah that's it! Mike Hoare! My copy had a different title though. Thanks!

    By the way, not just Congolese rebels but nearly all Black African rebels have that nasty practice (as the book states, it is a tradition of African warfare); in fact, even government troops did that.
    It happens even now.

    The fact is that no government want to risk a political critic by sending their troops into a worthless country
    That's also called being weak, selfish, and ignorant of the lives of innocents.

    That is why I always said if you truly want to help those innecont, putting bullets on rebels/government troops is the best way (they deserve a bullet on their head anyway).
    You are honest when it comes to this issue like myself. The only way to help the victims is to be mean or cruel and kill the perpetrators. It's just a hard fact of life. But nobody's got the balls anymore. Bring back Mike Hoare. He'd fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    You are honest when it comes to this issue like myself. The only way to help the victims is to be mean or cruel and kill the perpetrators. It's just a hard fact of life. But nobody's got the balls anymore. Bring back Mike Hoare. He'd fix it.


    Mercenaries are still fighting in that area - in fact, in whole world and much larger scale we ever notice (like there were/are American mercenaries fighting besides the Burma rebels); however, don't expect every merc like Mike Hoare's one. Most merc are, like those in the movie "Blood Diamond", don't give a **** about the situation and happily explore the misery of people (which actually happened during 1970s, on the same ground Mike Hoare fought in 1960s).

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