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    As you see from these political graphs, not very different at all. Just throwing this up as a discussion topic. Imo the small differences between the two candidates has been passed over by the MSM which instead focuses on small variations of policy.


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    I can't claim to be an expert on American politics but surely one of the major differences between them (which i would agree don't appear to be many) is that Mccain is less statist, and not that their social (left-right) views differ radically?
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    twfan, care to post a graph for hillary? most dems said she is a centrist. assuming your graphs are accurate, would like to know.
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    Obama is a liberal democrat and a latent socialist. McCain is one of the most liberal conservatives out there. there shouldnt be any difference. oh yeah. McCain is white .

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    There isn't a lot of difference. Neither of them are really bright or talented. Both of them rely too much on ideology rather than their own conscience.

    However, Obama wants to do a lot of things that would really help us out of the mess we are in now, especially the war and those responsible for 9/11, an issue that should have been settled at the most 5 years ago. McCain simply has no idea what to do and accepted the nomination because the Party simply had no one else they were willing to nominate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    There isn't a lot of difference. Neither of them are really bright or talented. Both of them rely too much on ideology rather than their own conscience.
    Excuse me? You can talk a lot of smack about Obama but you cannot accuse him of lacking in intellect.

    That's just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twfan55 View Post


    As you see from these political graphs, not very different at all. Just throwing this up as a discussion topic. Imo the small differences between the two candidates has been passed over by the MSM which instead focuses on small variations of policy.
    It would be interesting if you put G W Bush's positon on that map for comparison.

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    Too bad those graphs don't factor in judgement and temperment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    It would be interesting if you put G W Bush's positon on that map for comparison.

    Well, I got these from campaignforliberty.com but I can look on Nolan Chart to see if Dubya's, Baldwins, Naders and Barr's are there


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    The largest difference between the two seems to be Iraq, and no one has spent much time talking about that recently. In reality, the difference between a Democrat and a Republican is guns, abortions and gays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boer View Post
    The largest difference between the two seems to be Iraq, and no one has spent much time talking about that recently. In reality, the difference between a Democrat and a Republican is guns, abortions and gays.
    Except the difference between them on that issue isn't that large either. Obama has made a point of the fact.
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    Umm... From a libertarian website...

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008

    Puts them farther apart...
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    Yes, they're both pretty pathetic and I'm just glad that soon I won't have to listen to them American fanboys preach how great their candidate is or how stupid the other one is.

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    I took that kind of test before, and it placed me right where Ghandi is. Quite frankly, me and Ghandi are very different.

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    Obama isn't even black! jeez
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    Those political maps are totally inaccurate--I would hardly call McCain a statist, and Obama is much farther to the Left than that map suggests.
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    Obama and McCain are much closer than most people think... I may be wrong but after tomorrow, whoever gets elected - it will be business as usual. The US will continue to terrorize the world - And the needs for the military industrial complex and oil companies will be the new presidents top priority!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Those political maps are totally inaccurate--I would hardly call McCain a statist, and Obama is much farther to the Left than that map suggests.
    the reality is that American presidential candidates often were not tooo different...both parties are pretty centrist...just Democrats a bit left and Republican a bit right. They aren't communists or fascists.
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