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    Palin's Movement Urges 'Godly' To 'Plunder' Wealth of 'Godless'
    By Bruce Wilson Sat Nov 01, 2008 at 02:52:01 PM EST print story



    [please vote up this story on digg and Add to Onlywire . thanks for your support.] The McCain campaign, during the 2008 election, has repeatedly attacked Barack Obama for advocating that the U.S. federal government seek more wealth equality in America, by "spreading the wealth." But McCain's running mate Sarah Palin is closely associated, as noted in a recent New York Times story, with "spiritual warfare", an aggressive approach to evangelizing developed by the leaders of a worldwide religious movement which promotes a religiously based wealth transfer scheme as a means to implement theocracy.
    As the top leader of the New Apostolic Reformation, which extensive evidence suggests is Sarah Palin's chosen religious and political movement, C. Peter Wagner proclaimed, on June 21, 2006, that "God has declared through His prophets that the wealth of the wicked will be released to the Kingdom of God," and Wagner declared, threateningly, "the enemies' camp will be plundered."


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    Sarah Palin endorser Bishop Thomas Muthee, in a speech he gave before blessing and anointing Sarah Palin as a political leader, on October 16, 2005 at the Wasilla Assembly of God, laid out the same New Apostolic Reformation agenda, on how "God's kingdom" needed to "infiltrate" seven sectors of society. Muthee listed most of them: business and finance, schools and education, media and entertainment, politics and government. Muthee also stated "The Bible says the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. Sarah Palin was in the audience. Minutes later, she was anointed, and blessed, with the laying on of hands.
    Thomas Muthee is a top leader in C. Peter Wagner's movement, an internationally known celebrity in the New Apostolic Reformation and a personal friend of Wagner.
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    The New Apostolic Reformation is not a small movement: an apostle of C. Peter Wagner, one of the 500 apostles in Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles, owns what will be one of the tallest buildings in the world, the Jakarta Tower. One of the NAR's branches is successfully supplanting the Catholic Church in Brazil. The movement holds international conferences on advancing Christian hegemony in the business sector [link to PDF].
    At the end of this post I've added the nine minute video in which Thomas Muthee urges "infiltration" of key sectors of society and then blesses and anoints Sarah Palin as a political leader. In other videos I've also added, leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) describe and promote the same agenda for Christian theocratic takeover as did Muthee: the The Seven Mountains Mandate, in which seven key sectors of society are targeted for takeover.
    Two top leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation, directors of "Spiritual Warfare" networks who hold other high level positions in the NAR are now definitively tied to Sarah Palin: at her entrance into politics at 24 and her emergence onto the national stage, as Alaska governor, in late 2006. There is considerable circumstantial evidence for the case that Sarah Palin is still in Mary Glazier's prayer warrior / spiritual warfare network.
    A new 36 page report ( read online / PDF file / some of the highlights of the report ), from an independent research team that has specialized in studying Sarah Palin's faith, contains ground breaking information on a religious movement Sarah Palin is tied to and which advocates that its members "plunder" the wealth of the "godless".
    The McCain campaign, during the 2008 election, has repeatedly attacked Barack Obama for advocating that the U.S. federal government seek more wealth equality in America, by "spreading the wealth."
    But McCain's running mate Sarah Palin is closely associated, as noted in a recent New York Times story, with "spiritual warfare", an aggressive approach to evangelizing developed by the leaders of a worldwide religious movement which promotes a religiously based wealth transfer scheme as a means to implement theocracy.
    As the top leader of the New Apostolic Reformation, which extensive evidence suggests is Sarah Palin's chosen religious and political movement, C. Peter Wagner proclaimed, on June 21, 2006, that "God has declared through His prophets that the wealth of the wicked will be released to the Kingdom of God."
    Wagner detailed his religiously based wealth transfer scheme to power a theocratic takeover, stating "I declare that this wealth will be distributed for the extension of the Kingdom of God by the apostles that God has set in the church." Wagner made clear that that human agency would be a part of his wealth transfer scheme, and Wagner specifically singled out the "godless":
    "I decree that vast amounts of wealth will be released supernaturally, even from godless and pagan sources... The enemy's camp will be plundered... Resistance will be impossible. Jesus will put all things under His feet." - C. Peter Wagner
    As confirmed in an October 25, 2008 story by New York Times reporter Laurie Goodstein, Sarah Palin is closely associated both with "spiritual warfare" and with two religious leaders who practice "spiritual warfare" and profess to fight witches and witchcraft: Thomas Muthee and Mary Glazier.
    Both Muthee and Glazier are also high level leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation, which over the last decade has rapidly expanded as an international movement within Neocharismatic "renewal" groups within Christianity estimated to have 295 million members worldwide.
    It is a movement organizing on a massive scale for religious, social and ideological takeovers in entire nations, such as in Brazil [see PDF file: program for "Transform Brazil 2008 Conference]. Thomas Muthee is a personal friend of the top leader of the New Apostolic Reformation, C. Peter Wagner, and Muthee has played a key role in promoting "spiritual warfare" concepts that have powered rapid growth of Wagner's movement.
    Laurie Goodstein's October 25, 2008 New York Times story, YouTube Videos Draw Attention to Palin's Faith concurred with much of the research done since early September 2008 by the New Apostolic Reformation Research Team, which has extensively documented Sarah Palin's numerous ties the the New Apostolic Reformation movement. Goodstein's story did not name the movement but verified Sarah Palin's association with religious leaders who practice "spiritual warfare" and, as Goodstein accurately detailed,
    spiritual warfare "adherents believe that demonic forces can colonize specific geographic areas and individuals, and that "spiritual warriors" must "battle" them to assert God's control, using prayer and evangelism. The movement's fixation on demons, its aggressiveness and its leaders' claims to exalted spiritual authority have troubled even some Pentecostal Christians."
    Goodstein went on to note that Sarah Palin had (in the summer of 2008) "delivered an enthusiastic graduation speech for a class of young spiritual warriors in June at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the church in which she was raised." Goodstein's story went on to mention that Palin, as Alaska governor, had appointed a spiritual warfare advocate to an Alaska State suicide prevention council, a story first covered by this author.
    Most significantly of all Laurie Goodstein's story recognized Thomas Muthee's international stature as a celebrity, to millions internationally, because of his role in a globally distributed instructional video series promoting "spiritual warfare" concepts:
    "Bishop Thomas Muthee, the Kenyan preacher shown on the YouTube video anointing her as she ran for governor, is celebrated internationally as an effective spiritual warrior who led a prayer movement that drove a witch out of his town in Kenya. The removal of the witch, Bishop Muthee says, resulted in a drop in crime, alcoholism and traffic accidents."
    Thomas Muthee is in fact one of a handful of leaders, clustered around Muthee's personal friend C. Peter Wagner, who have pioneered the development of "spiritual warfare" concepts, terminology and methods.
    Muthee has held several top leadership positions in Wagner's organizations and networks including serving, in the late 1990's, on the International Advisory Board of the World Prayer Center. That Center was founded in the mid 1990's as a joint effort of C. Peter Wagner and Ted Haggard, founder of the Colorado Springs New Life Church and later the head of the National Association of Evangelicals.
    While Thomas Muthee was on that World Prayer Center board, an expedition authorized by Wagner and planned by Mexican former Voodoo priestess, now a Christian evangelist, Ana Mendez, went to Mount Everest to battle what Wagner and others in his movement have described as a global demonic spirit, centered over Everest, that blocks the prayers of Catholics and members of other religions from reaching God. That Spiritual Warfare expedition, as claimed in writings by Wagner and Mendez, may have contributed to the death of Mother Theresa.
    On October 16, 2005, Kenyan evangelist Thomas Muthee blessed and "anointed" Sarah Palin as a political leader, in a religious ceremony held at Palin's church of over two decades, the Wasilla Assembly of God.
    Prior to the ceremony, Muthee made a short speech in which he exhorted his listeners to carry out a holistic program, for the implementation of a Christian theocracy, that is being developed and promoted by leaders in C. Peter Wagner's organization, under the brand name "Seven Mountains". In his speech Muthee called for "God's Kingdom" to "infiltrate" key sectors of society such as business and finance, schools and education, media and entertainment, and politics and government.
    The Seven Mountains program is an extension of ideas popularized in the "Transformations" series of instructional videos, on "spiritual warfare", "spiritual mapping" and "prayer warfare" that have, according to some estimates, been viewed by two hundred million people around the world, in seventy different countries.
    The first video in the "Transformations" series came out in 1999 and only a year later, although most Americans were (and still are) unaware of the video series' existence, Sarah Palin in 2000, then Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, borrowed a Transformations video from her former Wasilla Assembly of God pastor, as noted in an October 25, 2008 story by AP reporter Garance Burke.
    The message of the video borrowed (and presumably watched) by Wasilla mayor Palin was this:
    Society can be transformed by mapping strongholds of demons, witches and "spirits of witchcraft", and through driving those out through "spiritual warfare". The result will be the almost complete cessation of crime and addiction, almost 100% Christian church membership, the growth of farm vegetables to enormous size, and a miraculous reversal of environmental degradation.
    Laurie Goodstein's New York Times story, "YouTube Videos Draw Attention to Palin's Faith", also noted Sarah Palin's association with another leader in C. Peter Wagner's networks, Mary Glazier.
    On July 13, 2008, Mary Glazier, at a gathering of New Apostolic Reformation leaders outside of Seattle, told C. Peter Wagner and others present that Sarah Palin had joined Glazier's Wasilla Prayer group at 24, after "God began speak" to Palin about entering politics. Glazier was then working to elect AIP Party candidate Walter J. Hickel to the Governor's seat. As Glazier told Wagner and leaders in is movement,
    "There was a twenty-four year old woman that God began to speak to about entering into politics. She became a part of our prayer group out in Wasilla. Years later, became the mayor of Wasilla. And last year was elected Governor of the state of Alaska. Yes! Hallelujah! At her inauguration she dedicated the state to Jesus Christ. Hallelujah! Hallelujah!" - Mary Glazier
    Initially the Alaska director for the Spiritual Warfare network, Mary Glazier is now listed as the Northwest Regional Director for what is the successor to the Spiritual Warfare Network, now re-branded as the Global Apostolic Prayer Network. Glazier is also one of the 500 apostles in C. Peter Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles, and she serves on the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders, the senior prophesy group in Wagner's growing empire.
    Mary Glazier currently has glowing testimonials, to her ministry and her leadership, from top leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation posted on her ministry web site, Windwalker's International: C. Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs and Dutch Sheets. Glazier also lists top NAR leaders as ministry advisers, including Dutch Sheets and Chuck Pierce. Glazier also has in the past, on her web site, a 1993 prophecy from Cindy Jacobs suggesting the formation of "prayer cells" within businesses as part of a wealth-transfer strategy (see Jacob's prophecy at end of post).
    As quoted in the February/March 2003 issue of Spiritled Woman Magazine, Glazier has also described how in 1995 her prayer group drove a witch out of Alaska with prayer warfare:
    "as we continued to pray against the spirit of witchcraft, her incense altar caught on fire, her car engine blew up, she went blind in her left eye, and she was diagnosed with cancer."
    It is not known whether Palin was active in Glazier's prayer group at the time, but evidence suggests Palin may well have remained in the prayer warfare group, which was in the 1990's incorporated into C. Peter Wagner's national and international prayer warfare networks.
    As Mary Glazier's news of Palin's association with the New Apostolic Reformation filtered out through the organization's communication networks, various of Wagner's apostles weighed in. Charisma Magazine editor J. Lee Grady called Palin a "bold Holy Ghost filled woman" and wrote that when he heard of John McCain choice of Palin, he "was reminded of the biblical story of Deborah, the Old Testament prophet who rallied God's people to victory at a time when ancient Israel was being terrorized by foreign invaders." Using terminology common to the New Apostolic Reformation, Grady titled his September 10, 2008 op-ed "Sarah Plain and The Deborah Anointing".
    Asked by New York Times reporter Laurie Goodstein, on Palin's relationship with Mary Glazier, Grady confirmed that Palin had known Glazier and been in Glazier's prayer group. But another of Wagner's apostles, a personal friend of Wagner's who calls C. Peter Wagner a "spiritual father", Norwegian Pastor Jan-Aage Torp excitedly wrote in a September 6, 2008 post on his blog,
    "Sarah Palin er bønnegriger og pinsevenn!" ("Palin is a Prayer Warrior and Pentecostal!")
    Torp went on to state in the post that Sarah Palin is currently a member of a prayer network under C. Peter Wagner and Mary Glazier and called it "interesting" that American media hadn't paid much attention to the relationship. Mary Glazier declined to talk with New York Times reporter Laurie Goodstein about her relationship to Palin, as did Palin, the McCain campaign generally, and pastors and religious leaders directly associated with Sarah Palin.
    In an October 22, 2008 appearance on Focus on The Family head James Dobson's radio show, Sarah Palin thanked "our prayer warriors across the nation."
    and so the evil has finally reared its head.

    here we have the christian equivalent of what transformed into alqaeda. these people are the real terrorists of western society and will do more damage than islamic extremists EVER could

    palin must not enter office, ever. in fact everyone associated with this view should be regarded as a traitor, enemy of the state and a terrorist to boot.
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    priceless.

    now useless...but still priceless.
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    and so the evil has finally reared its head.

    here we have the christian equivalent of what transformed into alqaeda. these people are the real terrorists of western society and will do more damage than islamic extremists EVER could

    palin must not enter office, ever. in fact everyone associated with this view should be regarded as a traitor, enemy of the state and a terrorist to boot.
    Are you serious? I know the pre election smear campaigns are at their peak and you are probably just posting this on random forums... But I can't let this fly when BO is top of the ticket. Look I am not advocating the movement but its not like we are talking about a terror cell and she does have freedom of religion oh and she left that church for non political reasons unlike a certain law professor.


    I am also sure this is being taken out of context as probably unlike you I have attended assembly of God churches and though maybe not main stream they are very nice people.
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    so nice people are defined by their money grabbing schemes that target people who dont believe in the same bedtime stories as they do? now im truely confused to what is good and what is bad.


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    Are all your politicians churches totally and utterly insane?
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    Considdering the fact W took advice from Ted Haggard I'm guessing the answer is yes.

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    about as pointless as Obama's crazy preacher's words...I doubt they really believe those and will translate those ideas to policy making.
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    Bruce Wilson is a pandering idiot and this is complete garbage. I always wonder why the dumber a written smear is, that the length gets longer and longer. Probably so that a careful skewering is just too munch work to bother with.

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    You come to my house to plunder, I'll kill you.





    One of the biggest problems with leadership is that sometimes people mistake strength of force as good leadership, when it in reality shows the opposite.

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    This sounds like less the teachings of Jesus or any apostle and more the ravings of Crusaders or Jihadists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahiga View Post
    This sounds like less the teachings of Jesus or any apostle and more the ravings of Crusaders or Jihadists.
    Exactly. . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahiga View Post
    This sounds like less the teachings of Jesus or any apostle and more the ravings of Crusaders or Jihadists.
    i think that the point yet not one American will raise a voice against the extremist within are own country that want to turn are country into what we demonize Iran for and the Taliban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talbaz View Post
    i think that the point yet not one American will raise a voice against the extremist within are own country that want to turn are country into what we demonize Iran for and the Taliban
    I have...

    I'll probably be the first sent to the re-education camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arian the Heretic View Post
    I have...

    I'll probably be the first sent to the re-education camp.
    You'll only beat me to reeducation if you're a vocal atheist too.
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    GOD WILLS IT TO BE SO!





    One of the biggest problems with leadership is that sometimes people mistake strength of force as good leadership, when it in reality shows the opposite.

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    by 'yet not one american will raise a voice', do you mean that before or after counting the majority of the country's citizens?

    (what i mean to say is that your statement is baseless and stupid. also this article was boring and stupid. rawr.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zznɟ ǝɥʇ View Post
    by 'yet not one american will raise a voice', do you mean that before or after counting the majority of the country's citizens?

    (what i mean to say is that your statement is baseless and stupid. also this article was boring and stupid. rawr.)
    ok i will amend that very few americans are willing to raise there voice and few have

    and this is far from baseless there are extreme christian group inside this country that believe in many things some even want to overthrow the government and install a theocracy it is very real and very scary cause no one with power will raise a finger against a christian cause "it's not right" even tho were supposedly in a War against Extremism
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    What Palin seems to forget is that those who are "godly" are those who are often the most godless of people; who use religion, along with their political affiliation, as an excuse and/or method to denounce others whom they see as "godless" to cover-up their shortcomings in an attempt to rally the faithful of their cause against all enemies, whether they be internal or external.

    She doesn't realize that the supposedly "godly" are outnumbered by the supposedly "godless" by a wide margin. If she wants things to be similar to the conditions of late 18th century France... then it looks like the masses will enjoy another Bastille Day.

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    I really don't think Palin is a member of a "grab the infidels money" club. I believe that some of these people (a very small minority) are crazy enough to believe this, but she's not one of them.

    I don't like Palin, I disagree with her, I believe she's dangerous for your country... and I find myself defending her a lot these days. Can't you blame her for one of her real shortcomings? They're not that difficult to spot.
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    lol, and they are having a go at Obama's beliefs and tax plans? This campaign has become a joke.

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