Kings & Princes/Nobles dismounting?

[napoleonrolff]

Hello

I believe that you in this great mod should include the possibility of
kings and other nobles may dismount during battle, together with their bodyguard, would it not be nice?

[Basil 11]

Hello

I believe that you in this great mod should include the possibility of
kings and other nobles may dismount during battle, together with their bodyguard, would it not be nice?

This would probably be quite good, but I think a seperate 'dismounted noble or whatever' unit would have to be created...

[Azim]

I'm sorry, this isn't possible to mod. (It's hardcoded into the game engine.)

[eggthief]

yeah that was actually kinda obvious IMO.

[Mighty Sultan]

once i had bug tha the genral died with his horse but then stand up once again,i don't now how! but the game crashed...

[eggthief]

I dont believe that simply because it goes against the game mechanics. On this forum u have to prove yourself when making statements like these.

[Mighty Sultan]

the game crashd in the same moment i hd to re -install it

[eggthief]

but look, that just sounds simply impossible with the game mechanics, something like this was never implented even if your game was bugged or corrupt it wouldnt happen.

[OdinX]

but look, that just sounds simply impossible with the game mechanics, something like this was never implented even if your game was bugged or corrupt it wouldnt happen.

Well I don't know about that, it depends. I mean, if you were running Kingdoms than it might be possible. After all, there are some scripts which allow nobles to fight on the grounds, such as the Scot's "Highland Nobles" and some scripts which involve some of the historical battles, so I think it might be possible, though very unlikely. And if it DID happen, such thing would at least warrant a crash in the system so...:hmmm:

[eggthief]

ehm it is possible to have dismounted generals yes, but going from mount to foot during battle is just impossible. Such animations have never been made.

[OdinX]

Well if it's a glitch it might've been possible, but that's something we might never confirm.

[eggthief]

theres no such thing as a glitch for that, unless someone from CA confirms that they planned on implenting this but stopped somewhere during the progress and left it in the game somewhere, I wont believe that guy and his word means nothing.

[Azim]

theres no such thing as a glitch for that, unless someone from CA confirms that they planned on implenting this but stopped somewhere during the progress and left it in the game somewhere, I wont believe that guy and his word means nothing.

You shouldn't be so skeptical, eggthief. This certainly shouldn't be a common occurence, but off the top of my head, I can think of a few reasons that this might have happened:

1. I don't know if the M2TW engine is multithreaded. If it is, this would instantly explain what happened. Two threads tried to access the general at the same time: one tried to kill him while one tried to make him perform an action (attack, rally the troops, issue a command, etc) A poor/missing mutex resource lock could have allowed this to happen.
2. The death animation for the general may have been corrupted while in memory (buffer overflow probably), or the animation could have been bad from the start.
3. Did you ever notice how when you select a unit fallen soldiers are still highlighted with the green arrows for a short period of time? It might be because they are still considered alive by the game engine. Maybe the general was in this "helf-dead" state when the game engine tried to make him do something.
4. The error was completely unrelated to the general, but the frame render was messed up as the game crashed, making it appear that the general was standing up.

All of the above explanations are errors and would probably have resulted in an immediate crash.

[Hengest]

See what a fantastic Scripter we have??? How can we go wrong!

You shouldn't be so skeptical, eggthief. This certainly shouldn't be a common occurence, but off the top of my head, I can think of a few reasons that this might have happened:

1. I don't know if the M2TW engine is multithreaded. If it is, this would instantly explain what happened. Two threads tried to access the general at the same time: one tried to kill him while one tried to make him perform an action (attack, rally the troops, issue a command, etc) A poor/missing mutex resource lock could have allowed this to happen.
2. The death animation for the general may have been corrupted while in memory (buffer overflow probably), or the animation could have been bad from the start.
3. Did you ever notice how when you select a unit fallen soldiers are still highlighted with the green arrows for a short period of time? It might be because they are still considered alive by the game engine. Maybe the general was in this "helf-dead" state when the game engine tried to make him do something.
4. The error was completely unrelated to the general, but the frame render was messed up as the game crashed, making it appear that the general was standing up.

All of the above explanations are errors and would probably have resulted in an immediate crash.

[Rodrico Stak]

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a script that exchanges mounted soldiers for their dismounted counterparts on the campaign map? If possible, then that would probably (and bear in mind that I don't know anything about scripting in M2TW) be the best way to implement something like this.

[Mathn]

William wallace, in the britannia campaign was also dismounted, or is that just a unit with a william wallace icon?

[Mighty Sultan]

1. Calvary Charge 2. General died 3.he get up but not human like,you know first dead, then stand up,but he didin't fought or nohing, in moment he stand up the game crashed,and i had to re-install it.

[Brammius]

Meh probably just a bug were the corpse stands up due to terrain or something.

[Mighty Sultan]

yes that's it

[OdinX]

I can totally see that happening within the game.