This is why people shouldn't call Obama a "terrorist" and a "socialist"

[morteduzionism]

Besides for them being bold faced lies...

TV interview with Rabin assassin shakes Israel

Amir told Channel 10 his act was influenced by the rhetoric of right-wing politicians and generals, including former prime minister Ariel Sharon and former army chief of staff Rafael Eitan, whom he said made it clear the 1993 Oslo agreement "would lead to disaster."

The reality is that some people can't distinguish rhetoric from genuine calls for alarm.

Throwing all these labels on people is dangerous. Unless people secretely want Obama to be killed...

If that's not your aim, you should really tone down the rhetoric before some nut...

[Tominokar]

I love how when Palin is bad-mouthing Obama in a speech, some woman screams out "KILL HIM!!" and she doesn't even bat an eyelid. If anything her smile just broadens.

[Ummon]

Sorry but no.

Freedom of speech implies that if you have an opinion you can publicly assert it. Trying to impute the actions of an assassin, because of his own late explanations used to alleviate his own feeling of guilt (or at least his perception as culprit), on those who did not approve the victim of the assassination (who was besides a great politician), and using this implicit fallacy to support another (criticism will cause Obama's assassination) is beyond dishonesty.

Obama sucks, he will serve his time as President, and that's all.

[morteduzionism]

Sorry but no.

Freedom of speech implies that if you have an opinion you can publicly assert it. Trying to impute the actions of an assassin, because of his own late explanations used to alleviate his own feeling of guilt (or at least his perception as culprit), on those who did not approve the victim of the assassination (who was besides a great politician), and using this implicit fallacy to support another (criticism will cause Obama's assassination) is beyond dishonesty.

This is so narrow minded that it's actually frightening...

Who the (bleep) cares about fallacies and logic!?

I'm not even implying that this is going to happen. All I'm suggesting is that some people don't think as logical as you...

Are you implying that EVERY person in the world thinks just like you? Can you say with absolute certainty that the rhetoric coming from Republicans IS NOT influencing some nut out there?

The factual answer to those questions is: No. Not every person in the world thinks like you. No, you can't say with even the most infinitesimal degree of certainty that the rhetoric isn't influencing someone.

All you can do is shut your mind to the possibility that your mean-spirited spiteful and nasty comments would cause another person to act. I don't believe in gods and stuff but I'd hope people who think like that wouldn't get a pass and be allowed into...heaven/whatever.

Obama sucks, he will serve his time as President, and that's all.

Oh well...since you said it I suppose that's precisely what's going to happen...

Hate speech is a term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, ideology, social class, occupation, appearance (height, weight, hair color, etc.), mental capacity, and any other distinction that might be considered by some as a liability. The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting.

>Repeatedly labeling/implying Obama is "socialist," "a Muslim," "a traitor," "a terrorist," "un-American" and/or guilty of "treason"...

McPalin could be guilty of libel. And people like you dismiss it as no big deal...

[kev-o]

some woman screams out "KILL HIM!!" and she doesn't even bat an eyelid.

Source woman yelled "kill him".

[christof139]

You cannot go about saying 'Kill him!" etc. as that can be considered a threatening remark and even a threat and people are indeed arrested and prosecuted for such public remarks and/or ordered to see a shrink or tow.

If you state this about the President, it is something that is taken under consideration by the Secret Service etc. I once reported some idiot for saying similar about President Bush.

Much of this nonsense about Obama is based on racial dislike, gross misunderstanding, and ignorance, as McCain himself has defended Obama. Apparently some people are simply ignorant, uninformed, uneducated, paranoid dolts.

Chris

[Ummon]

Infact, you can't. But calling him X or Y is not a crime. It may be true, false, but not a crime.

[Erik]

Infact, you can't. But calling him X or Y is not a crime. It may be true, false, but not a crime.

Not a crime, no.

But people who call Obama a terrorist should realize that if Obama does get murdered because some crazy person actually believes he's a terrorist, then they are responsible for his death.

But then the right-wing have never cared if their political opponents got murdered.

[Shaun]

Not a crime, no.

But people who call Obama a terrorist should realize that if Obama does get murdered because some crazy person actually believes he's a terrorist, then they are responsible for his death.

But then the right-wing have never cared if their political opponents got murdered.

Hardly so. One cannot be responsible for the actions of others.

In fact, I think it is quite telling of the intelligence of the people who say that Obama is a terrorist, Muslim or socialist.

[Hunter Makoy]

Hardly so. One cannot be responsible for the actions of others.

In fact, I think it is quite telling of the intelligence of the people who say that Obama is a terrorist, Muslim or socialist.

yes and no. if u held a rally saying he was a terrorist, then u'd prolly be ok. if u held a rally saying he was a terrorist and should be killed, then ur going to jail.

[Ummon]

Not a crime, no.

But people who call Obama a terrorist should realize that if Obama does get murdered because some crazy person actually believes he's a terrorist, then they are responsible for his death.

But then the right-wing have never cared if their political opponents got murdered.

Because left wingers have? Not to my knowledge. In my country, left wingers have conducted political assassinations systematically.

Besides, such argument on consequences is nonsensical and fallacious. Obama has had relationships with people who have been defined as terrorists, and you want to go and convince a crowd not to use an oversimplified version of facts to describe this, because of the possible actions of another, unrelated individual?

Why not do it with your own side's simplifications first?

[Hunter Makoy]

Because left wingers have? Not to my knowledge. In my country, left wingers have conducted political assassinations systematically.

Besides, such argument on consequences is nonsensical and fallacious. Obama has had relationships with people who have been defined as terrorists, and you want to go and convince a crowd not to use an oversimplified version of facts to describe this, because of the possible actions of another, unrelated individual?

Why not do it with your own side's simplifications first?

Abraham Lincoln (R) -assassinated
James Garfield (R) -assassinated
William McKinley (R) -assassinated
Theodore Roosevelt (R) -survived assassination attempt
Ronald Reagan (R) -survived assassination attempt

John F. Kennedy (D) - assassinated, many people say planned with the help of LBJ (D)

[roy34543]

Uhh rabins assasin was working for money for his family with a buissnessman (im pretty sure if i remember correctly) I dont think he had political motives, he just wanted to kill because someone basically told him to.

[Orko]

Uhh rabins assasin was working for money for his family with a buissnessman (im pretty sure if i remember correctly) I dont think he had political motives, he just wanted to kill because someone basically told him to.

He did have political motives. but mostly because he was kind of brainwashed.

[HrvatskaBosna]

I like my Freedom, and I like my country, when I wake up, I know I am an American..

What I do not like is Marxist mized-raced people, who are not even born in America, that want to take awway everything my forefathers, that came here in the 70s have fought so hard to make, we have out men on the moon, we have made the atmoic bomb, the first plance, electricity, we are Americans... OSama Hussein should get back to Kenya and help his poor borther that he cares nothing about, he is like all other socialists, wanting others to help, but he will not even help his own kin, can such a man be trusted..

Vote McCain, a real American

[Farnan]

I like my Freedom, and I like my country, when I wake up, I know I am an American..

What I do not like is Marxist mized-raced people, who are not even born in America, that want to take awway everything my forefathers, that came here in the 70s have fought so hard to make, we have out men on the moon, we have made the atmoic bomb, the first plance, electricity, we are Americans... OSama Hussein should get back to Kenya and help his poor borther that he cares nothing about, he is like all other socialists, wanting others to help, but he will not even help his own kin, can such a man be trusted..

Vote McCain, a real American

Hawaii is not in America?

[Kiljan Arslan]

Hawaii is not in America?

I think he's joking.

[Rapax]

I like my Freedom, and I like my country, when I wake up, I know I am an American..

Yet you call yourself CroatiaBosnia and have a dead austrian politican as an avatar. Might wanna check your priorities there.

[Orko]

I like my Freedom, and I like my country, when I wake up, I know I am an American..

good for you

What I do not like is Marxist mized-raced people,

Obama is not a marxist. and there is nothing wrong with mixed-race people.

who are not even born in America,

does that make them less good?

we have out men on the moon, we have made the atmoic bomb, the first plance, electricity, we are Americans...

and Obama will destroy this by...?

OSama Hussein should get back to Kenya and help his poor borther that he cares nothing about,

this sounds kind of Nazi to me, as American Nazis say that all blacks should go back to Africa.

he is like all other socialists, wanting others to help, but he will not even help his own kin, can such a man be trusted..

he is NOT A SOCIALIST! get this in your mind, people!

[squigian]

Relax, HrvatskaBosna's just joking; read his topic, "A taste of freedom".