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    This put tears in my eyes. I don't think it's been posted here yet, so here it is:



    That man is a hero. Let's not elect a Marxist appeaser who will trample on the sacrifices of men and women like him.
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    *sigh*

    Unfortunately for him what happens after the mistake doesn't justify the mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    This put tears in my eyes. I don't think it's been posted here yet, so here it is:


    That man is a hero. Let's not elect a Marxist appeaser who will trample on the sacrifices of men and women like him.
    1. Obama isn't marxist and you have no idea what marxism is.

    2. Obama wasn't the one who went on a reckless war that "sacrificed" the lives of 4000 brave Americans. Talk about disrespect the heroes...wasting their lives on a totally stupid war is the worst insult.
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    ...counting these threads....


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    No matter how well put together it is with the shot of him walking away, or how much cheesy music they put in at the end, it doesn't change the fact that the war was a mistake. He'd still have his leg and all those people he saw sacrificing their lives would still be here today if we hadn't gone to Iraq, without the proper reasoning and plans. It is neither our right nor our duty as a nation to militaristically make every nation "free", and to attempt to do so will only bring this country down. Iraq is simply Manifest Destiny refaced for the 21st century.

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    Reminds me of pre-WWI French propaganda.
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    I'm pretty sure (even with my faulty memory BWB) that the video has already been posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    I'm pretty sure (even with my faulty memory BWB) that the video has already been posted.

    Are you imagining things now? Beren and I are two different people. Seriously go get yourself checked out for dementia or something.
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    That man is a hero. Let's not elect a Marxist appeaser who will trample on the sacrifices of men and women like him.
    Me thinks you need to lay off of the histrionics.
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    this is just the gay side of America since 9/11 and war in Iraq. Opposition is being censored with crap like "disrespecting the troops", "betraying America", "allying with terrorists". Questioning the loyalty of someone who disagrees with you and labeling him or her "traitor" (heck even a "marxist") is just dumb.

    typical BS from mr. Bren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushbush View Post
    Opposition is being censored with crap like "disrespecting the troops", "betraying America", "allying with terrorists".
    Because that's usually what it is.

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    typical BS from mr. Bren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Because that's usually what it is.
    It's actually called "the mission is done, the Iraqi government and people want us out and have asked us to leave, and they can handle themselves if we just give them a small amount (relative to the US budget) of annual funding, so let's redeploy our troops where they're needed".

    The poor bastard in the video believes he spent those twelve months in pursuit of freedom.
    Technically it was freedom, freedom that happened to coincide with improved US influence and projection capabilities in the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Because that's usually what it is.
    un huh. Whoever disagrees with you is automatically a commie and a traitor and a terrorist. Sure.
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    The poor bastard in the video believes he spent those twelve months in pursuit of freedom.

    I feel bad for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    The poor bastard in the video believes he spent those twelve months in pursuit of freedom.

    I feel bad for him.
    Me too. He's being ridiculed by a lot of people not worthy to tie his shoes.

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    1. Obama isn't marxist and you have no idea what marxism is.
    Then tell me what you think Marxism is.

    Quote Originally Posted by bushbush View Post
    2. Obama wasn't the one who went on a reckless war that "sacrificed" the lives of 4000 brave Americans. Talk about disrespect the heroes...wasting their lives on a totally stupid war is the worst insult.
    No, the worst insult is letting them lose friends, comrades, and limbs and then bringing them home in defeat.
    Last edited by Pontifex Maximus; November 02, 2008 at 10:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post

    Then tell me what you think Marxism is, genius.
    here you go, "patriot".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism

    let's make your life easier, just show me that Obama even wanna nationalize industries. That's one of the key indicator of classical marxism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    No, the worst insult is letting them lose friends, comrades, and limbs and then bringing them home in defeat.
    no, the worst insult is letting them lose friends, comrades and limbs in a totally unjustified and unnecessary war.

    You let them die in vain. That's the worst thing you can to waste a solider's loyalty and sacrifice as commander in chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    Me too. He's being ridiculed by a lot of people not worthy to tie his shoes.....No, the worst insult is letting them lose friends, comrades, and limbs and then bringing them home in defeat.
    That is what happens when you fight a war of aggression based on a lie. The Germans, Japanese and Italians have gone though it, now it's our turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post

    Then tell me what you think Marxism is, genius.
    Marxism is a belief that states the protoletariat (workers) in the shops and the factories should unite against the bourgeois (the owners of them) and control them themselves, and form a classless society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beren Erchamion View Post
    This put tears in my eyes. I don't think it's been posted here yet, so here it is:



    That man is a hero. Let's not elect a Marxist appeaser who will trample on the sacrifices of men and women like him.
    Many troops including officers and generals are very disgusted with the way somethings have been handled.

    This video is the viewpoint of one person. It is nearly as bad as the videos and other media that shows the opposite.

    Funny, you use the term 'Marxist appeaser' yet the war in Iraq has not anything to do with Marxism, nor does Obama's politics. Even McCain has defended Obama. This talk of Obama's Marxism is directed at uneducated people that are quick to grasp at anything as long as that anything supports their own biased viewpoint. Kindergarten BS.

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