Palin a Contender for 2012?

[DisgruntledGoat]

So the big news the last couple days is the diva/rogue Sarah Palin and her clear intentions of distancing herself from the McCain campaign. Now apparently she has told ABC she is thinking ahead to 2012. My question is, how can she honestly think she is still electable? Her approval ratings are almost worst than Bush's, she has come of as woefully inadequate to lead the US but she feels that in four years the American public will elect her President? Isn't this a tad AMBITIOUS for a women only got into REAL politics 2 years ago (and even thats a stretch)?

I can't see how the republican party would want to return to this failed ticket in four years even if Obama looks like he is on the way out. What are your thoughts, is Palin really that out of touch with the reality of her popularity and her position in American politics?

[attilavolciak07]

Palin can run, but probably won't get Republican support, good thing too. When she claimed Obama was a Socialist I got mad because she is a governer of a state that practices collective ownership, which is one of the defined attributes to most variations of Socialism. She is so hypocritical and not popular (as you said with the approval rating) so, no, she is not a contender for 2012 in my opinion.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Well I knew this would happen. As soon as I first heard of how ambitious she is. Doesnt surpise me. But she still has to win the primaries and I dont think she could do that on her own right now if she was running. In the end it will all depend on what she does for the next 3 years cause thats all the time she has to turn public opinion around. Plus it will depend on how well Obama does in office becuase if he does great then what kind of line will she have to run with besides that her opponent is a socialist.
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[Kiljan Arslan]

calling him a baby eating muslim socialist!

[bushbush]

she is soooo light weight though....

[removeduser_487563287433]

Palin will only be a contender for 2012 if they fail to learn every lesson of 2008.

[JP226]

What are your thoughts, is Palin really that out of touch with the reality of her popularity and her position in American politics?

There is nothing wrong with Palin that wouldn't make her a viable option. Alot of the crap against her is just that, crap. Big deal if they got her with some gotcha questions, so has virtually every candidate for just about any office in the modern era. A couple years of actual prep work versus a few weeks and she'll be fine.

She's bringing in massive crowds, a few weeks ago just north of Tampa the local fire department estimated a crowd of about 60k. You can't say no to that potential.

[alhoon]

There is nothing wrong with Palin that wouldn't make her a viable option. Alot of the crap against her is just that, crap. Big deal if they got her with some gotcha questions, so has virtually every candidate for just about any office in the modern era. A couple years of actual prep work versus a few weeks and she'll be fine.

She's bringing in massive crowds, a few weeks ago just north of Tampa the local fire department estimated a crowd of about 60k. You can't say no to that potential.

Yes, I think we all remember "Hurricane Sarah"... many that supported her (even republicans) back then, now are against her. If the "invogorated" republican base changed their minds in just 6 weeks, I believe she will be out soon.

In fact, I don't think she will be able to get enough republican support to run as a govenor for Alaska again. I.e I believe she may have trouble getting elected at all, not as President.

Her ignorance of these things demonstrates she has been aloof and uninformed, while her belief in Iraq being "a war of God" shows her to be totally in contradiciton to the founding principles of this once great United States.

Hey! She's a hockey mom! What did you expect. Did you expect the middle-aged mother in the house opposite of you to be as informed about this stuff as politicians?!

I love my mother, really. But I don't think she could run for prime minister in our country. She simply isn't good enough for that.
But at least my sister hasn't been knocked up while being teenager, so she's a better mother than your Vice President "Hockey mom".

[Viking Prince]

Yes, I think we all remember "Hurricane Sarah"... many that supported her (even republicans) back then, now are against her. If the "invogorated" republican base changed their minds in just 6 weeks, I believe she will be out soon.

In fact, I don't think she will be able to get enough republican support to run as a govenor for Alaska again. I.e I believe she may have trouble getting elected at all, not as President.

I thought she was still popular with the residents. Also, there is the issue of the Stevens US Senate seat -- if he is reelected.

I would agree that her national support is weak -- but again she has four years to work with that also. Speaking engagements and fund raising for promising candidates in the lower 48 will go a lnog way towards solving support issues within the party.

[Captain Blackadder]

I don't believe so even if McCain wins I don't see her getting the nomination in 2012 if McCain steps down. She simply lacks the compantacy to win a presidential race on her own and she would not go well in the primaries since if Hucklebee runs again he will get the evangelical vote. So I do not see her as a contender in 2012 the only way it would be possible is if McCain does a WHH dies in the first 30 days and she shocks us all be being a great president who solves problems and gets corruption out of Washington.

[Manco]

The notion that the world will end in 2012 just became more realistic.

[Akrotatos]

The notion that the world will end in 2012 just became more realistic.

LOL, so true.

[Stark of Winterfell]

Just because someone attracts the masses at rallies doesn't mean that they have what it takes to be president. She's popular in Alaska, and among the extreme fans who go to her rallies, and some who don't go to rallies. All in all, how many people is that. And how many people are turned off by the types of folks who show up at her rallies and end up on Youtube?

[Jacque]

Just because someone attracts the masses at rallies doesn't mean that they have what it takes to be president. She's popular in Alaska, and among the extreme fans who go to her rallies, and some who don't go to rallies. All in all, how many people is that. And how many people are turned off by the types of folks who show up at her rallies and end up on Youtube?

I am an Alaskan citizen and registered Republican (for the moment )and I am entirely disgusted by her performance.


Palin won my vote based on her collected demeanor and sincere attitude. If you were here in Alaska when she was running against the incumbent Frank Murkowski you would see the Palin of today is a totally different person. Back then, there was no smart ass quips, no rubber necking...she actually had some class and you felt a sense that there was some substance to her: we felt that she genuinely wanted to end the corruption in the state and to put the Republican party back on track.





But now, with McCain, she has totally embraced the Neo-Con agenda, or maybe that was how she always was, but she did a better job of hiding it. Neo-Cons should be ashamed of what they have done to this country with George W. and are now attempting to do with McCain. They are not conservatives in even the vaguest sense. The Constitution, rights of man and liberalism all take a back seat to superficialities.

To be a "good Republican," all Palin had to demonstrate to the Neo-Con base was that she was anti abortion, pro-gun, and pro-war.

This simplistic platform has nothing to do with Conservatism and with true republicanism: they are fascists. And now she has shown herself to be one as well.








I am so sick of hearing her supporters say the media used "gotcah questions." What in the name of all that is reasonable is that even suppossed to mean? Do you even believe yourselves when you say that in her defense?

Not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is, or the Economic Recovery (i.e. Bailout) bill is just plain ridiculous. She ought to be horse whipped for even pretending to be worthy of high office.

Her ignorance of these things demonstrates she has been aloof and uninformed, while her belief in Iraq being "a war of God" shows her to be totally in contradiciton to the founding principles of this once great United States.




If Palin is even considered an option at all for 2012, the American people are beyond hope. Representative democracy requires vigilance and awareness on the part of the citizenry. If people really think all we need in a leader is the ability to smoothly read a tele-prompter and to look good doing it, then we might as well write off this whole experiment in governance that was started in 1775.

[imb39]

Well, let's look on the bright side. 4 more years of hilarious interviews!

[Last Roman]

Well, let's look on the bright side. 4 more years of hilarious interviews!

always a glass half full kinda guy aren't ya?

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Maybe if she gets a degree related to the job from a reputable school.

But if the GOP want to give that Dems that gift again, let's not stop them


1. "I can see Russia from my house!" ―Tina Fey, impersonating Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live (Watch video)

2. "When you think about it, Alaska is also near the North Pole, so she must also be friends with Santa." ―Jon Stewart, on claims that Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience (Watch video)

3. "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone. She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else. Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom." ―an anonymous McCain adviser complaining to CNN about Palin going off-script (Source)

4. "A whack job." ―a top McCain adviser describing Palin, one-upping the McCain adviser who called her a "diva" (Source)

5. "The difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull: lipstick, Prada shoes, a Gucci handbag, and a few $3,000 suits" ―from David Letterman's "Top Ten Sarah Palin Excuses for Spending $150,000 on Clothes" (Read the list)


6. "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?" ―Alaska State Senate President Lyda Green, who is a Republican (Source)

7. "She said that small towns, that's the part of the country she really likes going to because that's the pro-America part of the country. You know, I just want to say to her, just very quickly: you." ―Jon Stewart, speaking about Palin to a college audience in Boston (Watch video)

8. "According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone, they get pregnant." ―Seth Meyers on Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" (Read more Palin jokes)

9. "I believe marriage is meant to be a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers." ―Tina Fey, impersonating Sarah Palin in the VP debate (Watch video)

10. "Sarah Palin was asked a question by a third grader and she got it wrong. She apparently still does not know what the vice president does ... She says he or she runs the Senate. No, not in this country. You know I would never accuse George Bush of being a bright man, but when he was elected, at least he knew which building to show up to." ―Bill Maher (Read more Palin jokes)


11. [Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party." ―conservative columnist David Brooks (Source)

12. "[McCain] knows, in his gut, that he put somebody unqualified on the ballot. He knows that in his gut, and when this race is over that is something he will have to live with... He put somebody unqualified on that ballot and he put the country at risk, he knows that." ―Matthew Dowd, former chief strategist for President Bush's 2004 reelection campaign (Source)

13. Alec Baldwin, "mistaking" Sarah Palin for Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live during a conversation with SNL executive producer Lorne Michaels: "Lorne, I need to talk to you. You can't let Tina go out there with that woman. She goes against everything we stand for. I mean, good Lord, Lorne, they call her... what's that name they call her? Cari... Cari... What do they call her again, Tina?"
Sarah Palin: "That'd be Caribou Barbie."
Baldwin: "Caribou Barbie. Thank you, Tina. I mean, this is the most important election in our nation's history. And you want her -- our Tina -- to go out there and stand there with that horrible woman. What do you have to say for yourself?" (Watch video)

14. "It's like a really bad Disney movie. The hockey mom, you know, 'oh, I'm just a hockey mom'... and she's facing down President Putin... It's totally absurd... it's a really terrifying possibility... I need to know if she really think that dinosaurs were here 4,000 years ago. I want to know that, I really do. Because she's gonna have the nuclear codes."- ―actor Matt Damon (Source)

15. "If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself. If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she's a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true." ―conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, writing in National Review (Source)

[danzig]

She'll no doubt try I mean hell Dan Quayle TRIED and how many times did it take before Al Sharpton gave up trying for Democrats? Considering compared to those two she is huge step up no reason to suspect she wont...doesnt mean she will win a nomination though.

[C-Rob]

WEll, it's conceivable, I don't know if americans are smart enough to remmeber that she's a moron 4 years down the road.

[JP226]

She'll no doubt try I mean hell Dan Quayle TRIED and how many times did it take before Al Sharpton gave up trying for Democrats? Considering compared to those two she is huge step up no reason to suspect she wont...doesnt mean she will win a nomination though.

Dan Quayle nor Al Sharpton ever brought the crowds she did. Nor did either of them perform at the level she has as govenor. These comparisons aren't fair.

Maybe if she gets a degree related to the job from a reputable school.

WTF does a degree from areputable school have anything to do with anyhting? When you remove the out and out ignorant, nine times out of ten the fools are from the "reputable" schools. They tend to have this "i'm owed" mentality.