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    Default Would You Clone Your Dead Child?

    in reference to why ppl will refer to clones as 'a creature' or 'ghola'








    do these....'creatures' have souls?

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    The clones in SW had emotions.
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    Clones have souls!
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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ishoss View Post
    The clones in SW had emotions.
    SW is always right.
    Clones have souls!
    Woah - since when do you need a *soul* to have emotions?

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    let's be serious here:
    say u clone urself.
    does that clone have a soul?

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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    let's be serious here:
    say u clone urself.
    does that clone have a soul?
    Why would that be any different to having a twin? Does only one twin get a soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    does that clone have a soul?
    Why wouldn't it? It's an exact copy of yourself, down to the last DNA digit. As said by Gambit, it's not a robot, it's a human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attilavolciak07 View Post
    Why wouldn't it? It's an exact copy of yourself, down to the last DNA digit. As said by Gambit, it's not a robot, it's a human being.
    well then it comes down to the question. how is a soul made, what is a soul, and what is it used for.

    edit:yea sry thanatos, i only read a few first posts (read whole thing now)

    now if we do actively clone people i can immediately tell you 'normal' humans will develop a form of racism to the clones for not being 'natural' and will be treated as/used as a lesser being then the normal sentient it derived from
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    I wouldnt clone a loved one to replace him, because he wouldnt be the same person, he would just be a different person who happens to have the same dna.

    But still, if i found out that a person i loved was cloned, i wouldnt regard the clone as non human or subhuman or something like that.

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    I am betting the only one with a soul there is Dolly.

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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    A cloned human being is just a normal human being. Your clone is for all all intents and purposes your brother/sister. Of course as you are presumably religious, you would probably call it 'soulless' because it was created by artificial means, thereby contradicting the rest of the bible, but there you go.
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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    More importantly, do souls actually exist?

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    Well, what you should be asking is if souls exist at all. Nothing has been proved, so making such a thread is a bit pointless.

    But, if we suppose that all living beings have souls, it shouldn't be any different with clones. A clone is an exact genetic copy of a being, so if succesful, it should be exactly like the original, in all aspects. In theory of course....
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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    perhaps i shouuld clarify:

    having clones kinda takes away what makes us all genetically unique from each other. would u view a clone as being something less than the original, the way a copy of a priceless artifact is always a copy and never the original?

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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    would u view a clone as being something less than the original, the way a copy of a priceless artifact is always a copy and never the original?
    Well, would you view an identical twin as being less of an unique individual?

    (Clones probably don't have souls, because souls probably don't exist.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilting View Post
    Well, would you view an identical twin as being less of an unique individual?

    (Clones probably don't have souls, because souls probably don't exist.)
    the difference is that ppl can actively create clones, whereas twins are born out of anyone's control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    the difference is that ppl can actively create clones, whereas twins are born out of anyone's control.
    And what relevance does that have to the independent selfdom of the clone?

    None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluny the Scourge View Post
    And what relevance does that have to the independent selfdom of the clone?

    None.
    peoples' attitudes towards a clone would be very different to the original, i reckon, especially given the stigma the media and hollywood have attached to clones

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    Obviously a clone wouldnt be the same person, but there's no reason to think that he's any less of a person.
    I think a human would have to be a very very dull person, if the only way he can assure himself of his individuality is by being genetically unique.

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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    In truth your question is correctly formulated and intelligent, but not many would think so. The existence of twins though, obviously makes it so that identical genes doesn't mean identical "soul".

    The rest of the question lies in what you mean with soul.

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    Default Re: Do Clones Have Souls?

    The clone is never exactly like its original creator. its experiences, will always be different, and thus it is never a 100% copy of you. Its unique as soon as it is created/born.
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