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    http://www.economist.com/vote2008/?source=hptextfeature

    Rest of world prefers Obama over McCain for US president: poll
    AFP - Wednesday, October 22WASHINGTON (AFP) - - If the rest of the world could take part in the US presidential election, Democratic Party candidate Barack Obama would win four times more votes than his Republican rival John McCain, a poll showed Tuesday.

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    In surveys conducted by the Gallup Organization in 70 countries representing nearly half the world's population, 30 percent of people said they would choose Obama as president of the United States against eight percent who said they preferred McCain.

    In four close US partners in Asia -- Australia, Japan, Singapore and South Korea -- residents came out clearly in favor of Obama.

    Two-thirds of Japanese and Australian respondents said they preferred Obama to McCain, who only scored about 15 percent in the two countries.

    In Singapore and South Korea, meanwhile, the pro-Obama vote outpaced the pro-McCain vote by around two to one.

    "McCain and Obama have each pledged to reinvigorate and strengthen partnerships with the four developed Asian countries and take a more active role in Asian regional organizations," Gallup wrote.

    Nine out of 10 people polled in India and Pakistan and seven in 10 in Bangladesh said they had no opinion about whom they would prefer to see in the White House in Washington come next January.

    Gallup said the disinterest among South Asians revealed "a great disconnect between many of the world's poorest inhabitants and the politics of the United States."

    Latin Americans showed a similar disconnect, with 68 percent of those polled in central America and Mexico and 58 percent in South America voicing no opinion about the US election.

    Middle Easterners in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Lebanon and the Palestinian Territories chose Obama over McCain by a margin of at least two to one, although three-quarters of Palestinians said they didn't think the result of the US election would change much in their country.

    A majority of Europeans in 14 countries said they wanted an Obama victory, with the Dutch and Norwegians the strongest Obama supporters in Europe: nearly three-quarters in both countries said they preferred him to McCain.

    In France, 64 percent chose Obama against four percent for McCain, and in Germany, where an Obama rally in Berlin gathered some 200,000 people in July, the Democratic presidential contender was supported by 62 percent of those polled compared with 10 percent for McCain.

    In Africa, a median of 56 percent of poll respondents chose Obama -- meaning the percentage who chose the African American presidential contender was higher than 56 percent in half the 22 countries polled and lower than 56 percent in the other half.

    A median of nine percent chose McCain, who did not beat Obama anywhere in Africa, even though the current US administration of Republican President George W. Bush has a high approval rating on the continent.

    Bush in July signed legislation tripling funds to fight the killer diseases of AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis in Africa under an initiative launched under his administration in 2003.

    In Kenya, where Obama's father hailed from, the Democrat was supported by nearly nine in 10 poll respondents; McCain had the support of three percent of Kenyans.

    Around 1,000 people were interviewed face-to-face earlier this year in most of the countries that took part in the surveys.

    Survey sizes in Kuwait, Japan, Pakistan, Mexico and India were 484, 750, 804, 873 and 2,000 people respectively.
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    If most of the world don't really like you, can you really say you are better in foreign policy, beyond screwing the rest of the world upside down?

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    Im American and I disagree with McCain foreign policy, I beleive McCain is rash and full of .
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    McCain? Negotiate with other countries? Haw.
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    Yes, because McCain will not be a dupe and a sucker to the idiotic whims and wishes of those that are not citizens of the USA. The USA had given out more free aid since the end of WWII than any and possibly the rest of the nations of the world combined. McCain will not take BS from morons, and neither will Obama I do believe.

    With either candidate the USA-haters etc. will be in for a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christof139 View Post
    Yes, because McCain will not be a dupe and a sucker to the idiotic whims and wishes of those that are not citizens of the USA.
    I would rather read about McCain's amnesty plan for all illegal immigrants if I were you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christof139 View Post
    Yes, because McCain will not be a dupe and a sucker to the idiotic whims and wishes of those that are not citizens of the USA. The USA had given out more free aid since the end of WWII than any and possibly the rest of the nations of the world combined. McCain will not take BS from morons, and neither will Obama I do believe.

    With either candidate the USA-haters etc. will be in for a surprise.

    Cheers, Chris
    That's precisely why I think McCain is god-awful in foreign policy. This...whole notion that the slightest consideration for anothers sentiments is a sign of capitulation...is disgusting.

    Hubris in the most obnoxious offensive way imagineable.

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    Then the people who think like this are shocked that some country/person wants to blow up our stuff...

    And what's even more irratating is the same people start spewing that these people are "jealous" and "hate our freedom"...it's like verbal diarrehea...

    Just like the numbnuts that show up to McCain/Palin rallies...automatons who only know how to shout catch phrases.

    US Aid
    After WWII, IMO, the US had become a superpower because just about everyone else was broken (as in counties were shattered)...they used all that aid you're bragging about to essentially buy/maintain that status...

    Most of the current problems the US faces today were sowed during that period following WWII and funded by us in the form of "aid". Israel. Problems with Islam. Asia. Trade deficits. Dictators. Central America...etc etc etc...

    People who still think like that should be taken to the back of the woodshed...

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    McCain probably thinks he is good at foreign policy. He was there during the Cuban Missle Crisis he reminds us regularly.
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    Yes Vote for McCain, he will say you to the world.
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    Much of the world needs to be told to F-off.

    Chris

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    I was being Sarcastic considering our Aid does a lot of good to the world. The Peace corp anyone? Cant say F-off to the world.
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    There isn't going to be a whole of difference between the two on overall foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    There isn't going to be a whole of difference between the two on overall foreign policy.
    It depends. Remember McCain has been crucifying Obama for "talking to our enemies" while the generals on the ground and even the White House today considers "talking to our enemies".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseArcher View Post
    It depends. Remember McCain has been crucifying Obama for "talking to our enemies" while the generals on the ground and even the White House today considers "talking to our enemies".
    Obama can claim he will be a fabulous personal diplomat but does anyone really think he will be able to get Iran to recognize Israel?

    Look the world is the way it is. His FP goals arn't going to be much different than Bush's or McCain's and he will have the same FP tools to work with.

    I like this anology.

    Two carpenters each decide they want to make a chair. They both go into the their respective shops tghat have the exact same tools and supplies. Does any expect that their respective chairs are going to a whole different when they're done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    There isn't going to be a whole of difference between the two on overall foreign policy.
    The only difference I see is that Obama is more likely to obtain the facts FIRST before he sends in the power.
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    Not surprising most of the world wants Obama.
    I think most people simply want someone fresh but some simply because he match their political views.
    Sweden for example where most people want Obama to win despite him being right wing by our standards.
    He ain't Bush and he is closer to the left then McCain is(even tho both are right wing).

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    I suspect Obama will fear being viewed as weak, especially given the campaign rhetoric, and this might cause rash action on his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Brujo View Post
    I suspect Obama will fear being viewed as weak, especially given the campaign rhetoric, and this might cause rash action on his part.
    He hasn't exhibited "rash" behavior yet, and I'm sure he looks on his "coolness" as an asset not to be easily discarded.
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    I fully believe that McCain is NOT BAD at foreign policy; a brief examination of his political history can affirm it. It's just that his recent presidential campaign has highlighted the reactionary and polarizing side of the "big stick policy", which actually runs counter to his political record.

    In short: I think McCain is fairly experienced in the field of foreign policy with a good, cool-headed record under his arm, but his recent campaign blew that completely out of the water and made him into a warmongering hooligan.

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    McCain would be considered much better on foreign policy had his predecessor not messed things up so much. It is unfortunate that in the rest of the world's eyes he is viewed as just another Bush, because McCain has many excellent qualities that W. did not. McCain knows the cost of war, having been a POW for 5 and a half years, two of which were spent in solitary confinement. What many don't appreciate is that he wouldn't jump to war at the nearest opportunity like Bush did. And he has enough experience dealing with the US government that he is unlikely to be influenced as much Obama might be by external pressures, whether from within the US government or from foreign governments.

    That being said, Obama is infinitely more popular around the world, and would help rectify the damage done to America's image. So to answer the OP: those statistitcs garner very little sympathy among Americans. Non-Americans are not thinking primarily about America's interest in the world, they are thinking about their own nation's. It is silly, therefore, to presume that just because Obama is popular everywhere that he is the obvious choice. He is popular everywhere because he is young, black and vibrant, but also because he is seen as advocating a more relaxed, "less tough" foreign policy, something that non-Americans might prefer.

    Anyone who watched the debates, however, can see that when it came to foreign policy affairs, John McCain demonstrated a greater knowledge of the issues and generally came across as more competent. Obama literally told the audience in the second debate that he would "take out" Pakistan if they harbored terrorists. McCain just made fun of him for making such an outrageous statement, particularly considering Pakistan is a US ally (not for much longer probably, I suppose!)

    In conclusion, and to the person who just wrote above me, no McCain is not "god awful" in foreign policy, he is in fact very level-headed, very different from Bush, and far more qualified than Obama. But the non-American media have painted him with an overly-negative brush, while Obama has enjoyed an overly-positive one.

    I'm voting for Obama, by the way, mostly because I think Sarah Palin is a dangerous and stupid woman. But I find it necessary to defend McCain on foreign policy because I think it is one of his very obvious strong points.
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    Can someone provide me McCain's historical foriegn policy experiences? I just find the whole idea that senators can be gaining meaningful experience beyond belief. Even Biden is propped up as this foriegn policy giant. And what has he done really other than go a few trips and chair a committee here and there.

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