View Poll Results: Where will the crisis occur first?

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  • 1. A strike by the Israeli's against the Iranian nuclear facilities

    20 40.82%
  • 2. Issues surrounding the former Soviet Republics...aka: the Putin "Khrushev roadrunner" manuver

    7 14.29%
  • 3. Chavez and Venzuela, without Russian consideration

    2 4.08%
  • 4. N. Korea

    1 2.04%
  • 5. A serious terrorist attack, eg. greater than 100 casualties

    2 4.08%
  • 6. None of the above

    17 34.69%
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    VP candidate Joe Biden recently predicted the next President of the US will face a crisis to "test" his resolve shortly after assuming office. Please let's not get into political ramifications of his statement (there is a thread about that already), but presuming he is accurate, where do you think such a crisis is likely to occur first?

    Let's define "crisis" as being an issue that results in the deployment of a large force of US military prepared to deal major power projection against another group or nation with a simple "go" command by the President.

    My prediction is the first one.....if it still is a possibility by then.

    Personally I think there is a good chance that will happen before Bush leaves office, and possibly at the instruction of the US to provide a chance for Bush to influence the election.

    If it doesn't happen by innaugeration day, it will have to happen soon. Studies show that by Iran just possessing a nuclear device, a LARGE segement of the Israeli population would emigrate, effectively shutting down the nation. Just the possession of such a weapon would do that!

    The big unknown to most people, myself included, and probably the Iranians too, is just how much control does the US have over Israel. And even if in "control", would we morally object to what can be argued is a necessary act for their survival?
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    @M.T

    I agree in part.... that if Obama is elected there may very well be a premetive attack by Israel on Iran's nuclear facilities.... (becuase they know that an Obama presidency will not be as supportive to them as the current Bush Presidency is)

    However...in terms of a "true international crises" if I were to put money on it....Id go with [something similar to what you listed as a choice] I see it very possible there will be as "crises of Chavez and Venezula but WITH Russian interventon.... Can anyone say "Venezualia Missle Crises"??

    As for the Putin Stalinizing Eastern Europe and gobbling up the old Soviet Republics... we saw how the international world dealt with the state of Georgia...

    Basically the world in is for it no matter who gets elected...

    which makes me really really hope McCain gets the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oglethorpe1983 View Post
    @M.T

    I agree in part.... that if Obama is elected there may very well be a premetive attack by Israel on Iran's nuclear facilities.... (becuase they know that an Obama presidency will not be as supportive to them as the current Bush Presidency is)

    However...in terms of a "true international crises" if I were to put money on it....Id go with [something similar to what you listed as a choice] I see it very possible there will be as "crises of Chavez and Venezula but WITH Russian interventon.... Can anyone say "Venezualia Missle Crises"??

    As for the Putin Stalinizing Eastern Europe and gobbling up the old Soviet Republics... we saw how the international world dealt with the state of Georgia...

    Basically the world in is for it no matter who gets elected...

    which makes me really really hope McCain gets the job
    I thought a moment before I included the phrase to exclude Russia Oglethorpe. My thinking was that Russia would never be foolish enough to risk nuclear war ( or for sure traditional war with such a loooong supply line) over Venzuela.

    The other eason I excluded them is I doubt they have concluded Obama would act in any manner less than Kennedy, and we know how that turned out.

    I also didn't want to turn it into a thread about the candidates' difference in temperment influencing Russia in such a scenario....wanted to keep it simple..straight Hugo.
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    Surely it is Israel attacking Iran, the others are horribly unlikely, there was an incident with the former USSR last summer, and everyone just sat there lecturing Russia with no credibility. Hardly a crisis, and definitely not one to be repeated so soon. The rest are unlikely, except perhaps the terrorist attack, but still not a 'crisis'.

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    It's the unveiling of the North American Union.

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    i d vote 7. within the country.
    cleansing of mind criminals and anti american pilgrims

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    I think gas shortages, perhaps with other shortages following.

    Or the alternative...

    a massive and worsening U.S. economic crisis resulting in Depression v.2.

    Perhaps even a combination of the two....
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    Or how about peace on Earth for 4 years, that'd be nice.

    Personaly I would go with insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan giving the soldiers a good shove to test the responses of the new president.

    I don't think another huge terrorist attack is likley. Just look at all the preperation and planning that went into 11/9 and 7/7. The fact that these attacks were even pulled off was more or less a fluke.
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    if it's the first one
    i'l expect the next US president to bend over on the desk of the oval office and allow himself to be reamed by the israeli ambassador.
    it doesnt matter who's in the oval office, they all kowtow to israel.

    wouldnt it be mad if we had a president with balls and declared war on the terrorist nation of israel when it starts bombing another soverign country like iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    if it's the first one
    i'l expect the next US president to bend over on the desk of the oval office and allow himself to be reamed by the israeli ambassador.
    Lol, + rep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    Lol, + rep

    the pleasure was all mine

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    Venezuelan commandos invade Cuba to seize control of Cuba from Raul after Fidel dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Venezuelan commandos invade Cuba to seize control of Cuba from Raul after Fidel dies.

    A good one indeed.

    Will they be led by Chuck Norris or Stephan Segal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    A good one indeed.

    Will they be led by Chuck Norris or Stephan Segal?
    The death of Castro will certainly be a challenge/opportunity for the next president.

    And I wouldn't be suprised if Chavez does try something there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    The death of Castro will certainly be a challenge/opportunity for the next president.

    And I wouldn't be suprised if Chavez does try something there.
    Hasn't Castro, F. been more dead than alive for awhile now and the country is being managed by Castro, R. ? How many Castros are there btw?


    You might be right about Chavez, but he really doesn't like his Columbian neighbors too much. They are trying hard to be friends with us, the Columbians, and Hugo doesn't like that. Logistically speaking (didn't Napolean say something one time about logistics?) I don't see the Venz navy as being able to support an excursion into Cuba when a good excuse exists right next door.
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    The sun goes red giant, vaporizing Mercury outright, turning Venus, Earth, and Mars into burning balls of fire. All life becomes extinct, save for a select few species of bacteria surviving deep inside the Earth's mantle.

    Millions of years later, a tentacled hive-mind alien race from Alpha Centauri stumble upon the ruins of the third rock from the sun, and salvages the only remains of what was once a proud civilization - the robot remains of the cybernetic organism the Earthlings called "Al Gore".

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    The crisis will be when President Obama makes a policy decision and protestors appear in European capitols. Obama discovers that they do not really like him anymore.

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    For all the miscues of Dan Quayle "Joe from Scranton" is much worse. Anyways Israel is the most likely. @Exarch would you rather Iran got nukes?
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    Alaska seceding from the USA with Palin as their new head of state

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    Quote Originally Posted by narva View Post
    Alaska seceding from the USA with Palin as their new head of state
    *fingers crossed*
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