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    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' plane flights.

    The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.

    As governor, Palin justified having the state pay for the travel of her daughters -- Bristol, 17; Willow, 14; and Piper, 7 -- by noting on travel forms that the girls had been invited to attend or participate in events on the governor's schedule.

    But some organizers of these events said they were surprised when the Palin children showed up uninvited, or said they agreed to a request by the governor to allow the children to attend.Several other organizers said the children merely accompanied their mother and did not participate.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS....ap/index.html

    Finally, the answer to all family-haters out there:

    I love my family and you'll pay for this!

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    snowmobil races are the heart of alaska culture. ergo: what she and her children did was for her country. so the country has to pay.
    muahahaha

    u allways get that in any country - some dumbass politician with a decent wage acually has not even the least moral value and tries to screw up his/hers employer to make/save some extra bucks.

    makes me sick
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    A corrupt politician!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie88 View Post
    A corrupt politician!

    Oh what the world has come to!
    A corrupt politician famous for fighting corruption!

    Does this really count as corruption though?
    Have you ever seen Dirty Harry Guns and money are best diplomacy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishoss View Post
    Does this really count as corruption though?
    I would have thought its more like embezlement or fraud. But I'm not conversant in US law.

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    She just couldn't wait untill after the elections. Start being corrupt then, not now. Moron.

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    Christ another Palin thread, I swear she has caused more threads then Russian's little invasion of Georgia. Psst Obama is up by 10% pts by many polls so unless in the next 2 weeks Obama wakes up in bed with a dead hooker or a 12 yr old boy we can forget about Palin...who is Mccain's running mate not someone running for President or (based on the number of threads) Empress of the World.

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    If only she chose showbusiness - she would be making a fortune right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Christ another Palin thread, I swear she has caused more threads then Russian's little invasion of Georgia. Psst Obama is up by 10% pts by many polls so unless in the next 2 weeks Obama wakes up in bed with a dead hooker or a 12 yr old boy we can forget about Palin...who is Mccain's running mate not someone running for President or (based on the number of threads) Empress of the World.
    Did you ever stop to wonder exactly WHY there are so many threads? Magic perhaps? No, of course not...it's because there is so much wrong about her.

    She used her power of office for personal vendetta against her sister's ex-husband.

    She acted corruptly by charging the Alaskan taxpayers for her to live at home while she was governor.

    She had given many statements and interviews that indicate she is one snowshoe short of a pair.

    She has displayed indications she is actually working for her own future political gain, versus acting in coordination with McCain's team to get HIM elected.

    And now this.

    Quote Originally Posted by marrow View Post
    Oh give it up lads, really.

    I will never claim that Obama is squeeky clean, he's in politics after all. But so far all that the negative ampaignt against him has produced has been association with Ayers, ACORN (hardly a blunder) and pathetic accusations of him not being an American citizen.

    Plus, he's pretty much won anyway so you might as well put this one to bed.
    Freudian?

    Please dont double post, use the edit post button-Valus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Did you ever stop to wonder exactly WHY there are so many threads? Magic perhaps? No, of course not...it's because there is so much wrong about her.
    Now that would be true IF the quality of the threads were of substances, this thread isnt bad for example but take a look as many of Oswald's....especially the one about the leading the senate thing. So for some you are right (with this one for example given Garb's track record of not engaging in political agenda nonsense) but for most you are wrong. There is simply no need for a thread every time Palin passes wind, Obama as I said is all but certain a win come election day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Now that would be true IF the quality of the threads were of substances, this thread isnt bad for example but take a look as many of Oswald's....especially the one about the leading the senate thing. So for some you are right (with this one for example given Garb's track record of not engaging in political agenda nonsense) but for most you are wrong. There is simply no need for a thread every time Palin passes wind, Obama as I said is all but certain a win come election day.

    I will agree with you to a point, some of the threads are ridiculous.

    Will you agree though with me that she is unqualified to be a candidate for VP?

    And if you do that, would you also then agree her selection by McCain was an example of mismanagement of his campaign?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelus Trento View Post
    Will you agree though with me that she is unqualified to be a candidate for VP?
    I believe I already have in past thread though I wouldnt use the word unqualified if only because it is difficult to say someone is unqualified to hold a job Dan Quayle held. I however wanted to wait and see what Palin had to offer before deciding it (unlike some *cough*) and clearly she has failed to produce the goods so to speak.

    And if you do that, would you also then agree her selection by McCain was an example of mismanagement of his campaign?
    It was a gamble and a bad one little denying that though Im sure Obama is cringing everytime Biden opens his mouth lately as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Now that would be true IF the quality of the threads were of substances, this thread isnt bad for example but take a look as many of Oswald's....especially the one about the leading the senate thing.
    IMO, that and her being found to have abused her power as governor are the most troubling.

    I don't think you're putting this in the context of the current V.P. which is Dick Cheney. He has done a lot to garner more power in the V.P. office and the executive in general.

    That's altering the form of our government. That's scary.

    Then when you have a person like Palin who might be in the office next and...every other day something comes out that shows she may be in the same mold as Cheney...people should be worried.

    Does anyone want another secretive White House like the current one?

    So for some you are right (with this one for example given Garb's track record of not engaging in political agenda nonsense) but for most you are wrong. There is simply no need for a thread every time Palin passes wind,
    I think there is.

    She doesn't give interviews so noone really knows what she thinks/feels. The only thing we have is her word that she's a "reformer" and a "maverick"...She won't appear on any news shows but she managed to make it to Saturday Night Live...

    She's already been found guilty of abusing her power as a governor.

    The dinosaur stuff, etc is all true. The country should know what's in her head.

    The only thing that has turned out to be false, IIRC, is the thing about her baby. But that's been dead for a looooong time...

    Obama as I said is all but certain a win come election day.
    ...I don't know why people think this...

    I'm nsaying it's right but perhaps in the interests of fairness we should pull out Bindens expense claims for the last year or two and see what that reveils.

    Who's to say the Republicans didn't already try? Maybe there wasn't anything there. McCain sure does like to bring up Obama's asking for money for the Planetarium...so I can't imagine they wouldn't know if Biden had been fudging expense reports to justify traveling with his family...
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    Quote Originally Posted by morteduzionism View Post
    Who's to say the Republicans didn't already try? Maybe there wasn't anything there. McCain sure does like to bring up Obama's asking for money for the Planetarium...so I can't imagine they wouldn't know if Biden had been fudging expense reports to justify traveling with his family...

    Binden has already been found out before the election. He was caught plagiarising former UK Labour leader Neil Kinnocks speechs. Of the people to copy why the did he choose that wind bag loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morteduzionism View Post
    Who's to say the Republicans didn't already try? Maybe there wasn't anything there. McCain sure does like to bring up Obama's asking for money for the Planetarium...so I can't imagine they wouldn't know if Biden had been fudging expense reports to justify traveling with his family...
    Oh its been found, just not reported, except for (gasp) Fox News and the Washington Times, hardly a conservative outlet. In fact his money issues are far larger than Palins. Here is just the most recent.

    The money largely flowed from the coffers of Mr. Biden's failed presidential campaign during the past two years to a company that employs his sister and longtime campaign manager, Valerie Biden Owens, according to campaign disclosure filings.
    The senator from Delaware also directed campaign legal work to a Washington lobbying and law firm founded by his son R. Hunter Biden, the disclosures show.
    While not technically illegal, its just as unethical, and then his son Hunter the lobbyist is up on federal charges in at least two cases.




    And how about the 33 million in contributions to Obama from outside the country? The FEC has found 200,000 of it to be legit, from Americans working overseas. Its so bad, that the Nigerian government is even investigating it:

    At one event, a table for eight at one fundraising dinner went for $16,800. Nigerian press reports claimed sponsors raked in an estimated $900,000.

    The sponsors said the fundraisers were held to help Nigerians attend the Democratic convention in Denver. But the Nigerian press expressed skepticism of that claim, and the Nigerian public anti-fraud commission is now investigating the matter.




    The FEC has compiled a separate database of potentially questionable overseas donations that contains more than 11,500 contributions totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their “state” as “IR,” which the FEC often uses as an abbreviation for "information requested." Another 63 listed it as “UK,” the United Kingdom.

    More than 1,400 of the overseas entries clearly were U.S. diplomats or military personnel, who gave an APO address overseas. Their total contributions came to just $201,680.


    Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.
    Not even Clinton was this bad for accepting foreign contributions.





    In June, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a public speech praising Obama, claiming foreign nationals were donating to his campaign.

    “All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man,” the Libyan leader said. “They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency..."




    Though Gadhafi asserted that fundraising from Arab and African nations were “legitimate,” the fact is that U.S. federal law bans any foreigner from donating to a U.S. election campaign.



    A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and Monir Edwan contributed more than $31,300 to the Obama campaign in October and November 2007, FEC records show.



    The Edwan brothers listed their address as “GA,” as in Georgia, although they entered “Gaza” or “Rafah Refugee camp” as their city of residence on most of the online contribution forms.



    Or the BS contributions from inside the US that add up to more than the allowed limit under the new rule the Dems were all for??

    In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas.

    Mr. Good Will listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.”

    A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25.

    In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.

    Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 — still well over the $4,600 limit.

    There can be no doubt that the Obama campaign noticed these contributions, since Obama’s Sept. 20 report specified that Good Will’s cumulative contributions since the beginning of the campaign were $9,375.

    In an e-mailed response to a query from Newsmax, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt pledged that the campaign would return the donations. But given the slowness with which the campaign has responded to earlier FEC queries, there’s no guarantee that the money will be returned before the Nov. 4 election.

    Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” just as Good Will had done.



    Blah they are all corrupt. So Palin spent a few thousand dollars of taxpayer money she probably shouldnt have. At least she isnt pandering to foreign nationals who live in the Gaza strip, or giving money to her son who is being indicted on federal fraud charges.



    Sadly there isnt a reason to vote for any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    Christ another Palin thread, I swear she has caused more threads then Russian's little invasion of Georgia. Psst Obama is up by 10% pts by many polls so unless in the next 2 weeks Obama wakes up in bed with a dead hooker or a 12 yr old boy we can forget about Palin...who is Mccain's running mate not someone running for President or (based on the number of threads) Empress of the World.
    Don't misunderstand me. I think that Obama is the absolute political vacuum, the equivalent of a new age pseudoscientific theory, a veritable balloon of meaningless rhetoric. He is the posterboy of style over substance for the ages.

    Still, I am really perturbed by the way the GOP is fighting this and I am frankly apoplectic at the quality of people the choose to stand against him. They pelter him with muslim-terrorist-communist nonsense instead of deconstructing his bloviated discourse and of course they get paid back in kind.

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    Imagine had what the race would look like if as much MSM effort went into investigating Barack Obama as there has been on Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Imagine had what the race would look like if as much MSM effort went into investigating Barack Obama as there has been on Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin.
    Heck if they focused on the blunders,miscues of Biden as well but alas this election has already been decided the moment Obama got the nomination. Long live the Messiah!

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    Oh give it up lads, really.

    I will never claim that Obama is squeeky clean, he's in politics after all. But so far all that the negative ampaignt against him has produced has been association with Ayers, ACORN (hardly a blunder) and pathetic accusations of him not being an American citizen.

    Plus, he's pretty much won anyway so you might as well put this one to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Imagine had what the race would look like if as much MSM effort went into investigating Barack Obama as there has been on Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin.

    There was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more effort and money put into investigating Obama -- they just did not get anything really juicy. He wrote TWO Autobiographies and had an army of reporters and down right yellow journalists up his butt (Like Stanley Kurtz) for two years. They couldn't deliver the goods.

    Yet a couple of kids with internet connections find dirt on Palin and Wurzelbacher -- hmmmm -- let me put it this way:

    If you take a virgin and hooker and test them both for STDs, if you don't find any STDs on the virgin, it doesn't mean you examined the virgin any less than the hooker.

    Fall 2010: Michael Chiklas and Tina Fey Star in an A&E special. Ice Plumber: The Untold Love Story. (With George Burns' corpse starring as John McCain.)

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