Returning War Booties (pre 1860) [Carl vs D'artagnan]{fini}

**Carl von Döbeln** · October 21, 2008, 06:28 AM

It sounds nice and all to be giving back treasures to the countries of origin but in many ways it's just not practical or even worth it. It's not like returning a TV or a radio the owner after borrowing it for a while as the actual owner died so long ago that only nationalists care to crave them.

These treasures are safer and more available for a global public to see than if they were returned back to their "Homeland".
contextually An artifact makes more sense if it rests near it's original home. but it doesn't mean it is always the best place for it.

The return of items should be a mutually negotiated agreement between museums, not nations.

but, I think that war booties that was taken after 1860-1870 should be returned though.

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**Philos Sophos** · October 21, 2008, 07:49 AM

Oh Christ,what have I done...this topic is an pretty hard one but hey,I will answer you somehow...ok,here it goes.

Well,my opinion is that everything that was taken from country A by country B should be given back if the country A want's it.It was taken from their lands and they have every right to take it back.

But I agree with you on some points:

A)They should be given only when in the country who want's it's stuff back have the proper place where to keep it that means a proper museum.

And...

B)They should be negotiated by museums not Goverments,because returning the war booties getting politicial would get very messy.

All I wanted to say is,that the war booties should be returned if the country who want's them isn't a backward nation like Somalia,and does not damage it in someway.

**Carl von Döbeln** · October 21, 2008, 08:50 AM

Well,my opinion is that everything that was taken from country A by country B should be given back if the country A want's it.It was taken from their lands and they have every right to take it back.

So should most of Saint Marcos church in Venice be taken apart and returned to Costantinople? Or even to Greece?

They should be negotiated by museums not Goverments,because returning the war booties getting politicial would get very messy

Yes, although returning war booties without getting political is very very hard.

**Philos Sophos** · October 21, 2008, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Carl Von Döbeln

So should most of Saint Marcos church in Venice be taken apart and returned to Costantinople? Or even to Greece?

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Well,I mean't stuff what you can move like flags,swords,guns etc.You can't move a friggin Basilica,do you?

Originally Posted by Carl Von Döbeln

Yes, although returning war booties without getting political is very very hard.

Well...Museums<-Funded by the Goverment<-contains politicians...

**~~Exarch~~** · October 21, 2008, 11:23 AM

the british dug up egyptian pharoahs and displayed them in museums
why cant we do the same to old english kings?

**Carl von Döbeln** · October 21, 2008, 11:31 AM

Why should you return them?
It was "legal" to plunder and steal things.

**Philos Sophos** · October 21, 2008, 11:36 AM

Well,but we live in 21st century right?I'll guess it would be a honourable thing to do so we could all live in peace...

Even the Russians could give us back the stuff they stole from here.

**Carl von Döbeln** · October 21, 2008, 11:45 AM

I think that the war booties that was taken after 1870 should be returned.

But the ones that was taked before that, shouldn't.

It was legal to plunder, the soldiers fought to capture the artifacts.