It seems to me Mccain is often criticised for ads his party airs against Obama, yet silence ensues whenever Obama makes a ad attacking Mccain, or multiple attacks made on Palin.
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Attack ads
It seems to me Mccain is often criticised for ads his party airs against Obama, yet silence ensues whenever Obama makes a ad attacking Mccain, or multiple attacks made on Palin.
Let's just hope they were fascist communist kittens who were on their way to international fascist communist fair.
Comes Rei Militaris
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People might say it's rascist if they criticise obama
Ordinarius
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Political ads is a disgrace no matter who funds the. And i think they shud be illegal.
Horrible(ly cute)
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All political ads?? if only some, how would it be determined which would be allowed? Perhaps suffering through the current system is better than the alternatives. Another place where a smaller government would not tread. Push towards smaller government!Originally Posted by Xan
Praepositus
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Illegal? No way. Thats a step away from Deomcracy. I'm glad that here I could go on an internet game that has a Tony Blair or Gordon Brown with an MK47 shooting bad guy's, or that if I see a joke about him it dosen't matter. Same goes for serious adds. Political aggression is a part of politics. Fighting dirty isn't good, but how else can you control it?
You could then say why not only allow reasonable sources? But then what is a reasonable source? Nearly all sources in adds like these are twisted or put in a better light, but that is addvertising and politics. If we started to filter adds, especially political adds, that would be taking away our freedom.
We must be ready to accept that Politicians, no matter how good they are, are never perfect, and never speak the truth all the time. Anybody who believes 100% what they hear on adverts such as these or Political campaign leaflets needs to realise the real world.
RAWR!
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Whatever. I am not citizen of the US, but these things happen all the time. I don't agree with that policy, but I don't think that it should be illegal either...
Praeses
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basically the thread title is supposed to be "who critisizes obama is a racist", right?
answer to that:
if you believe obama cant be criticized (because who does is declared a racist) you are most likely a racistand as usual the victim
Praefectus
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I think it's best to let them sleep in the bed they make.
*sigh*
Yes, Obama has, in absolute terms, spent more on negative advertising, than anyone before him. Yet those ads are only 1/3 of his total, since he has so much more money than McCain. More than anyone else...sounds pretty negative, until you look at......
Yes, during a small segment of time recently , 100% of McCain's ads were negative.
I would also say that McCain's negative ads are more bitter than Obama's, and try to portray him as someone different from who he is. And I don't think I'm alone in that assessment.
The American people, in the voting booth, will determine whether negative ads have resulted in a positive or negative result for the campaign.
"oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
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No if you criticize Obama it's because of his polices and future planes for the US, not his race; so racism is irrelevant.
Praefectus
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For you and me it might be irrelevant, but do you really think that is true for ALL Americans? I don't. And many people won't admit to that being the reason they wouldn't vote for Obama, and there are some who even consciously will deny a racial bias, but subconsciously there is.
Race is as important this election as each voter wants to make it.
"oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
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Granted, but just because Mccains ads attack Obama on his policies, not because he's BLACK, makes it irreverent, since we're talking about Ads. If the Mccain camp wanted to go after Obamas race, I don't think they'd have any trouble doing it.
Praefectus
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They will never do that since it would be the kiss of death for them.
But they use other false attacks...such as trying to portray him as a terrorist or *gasp* a muslim!!
"oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
Vicarius Provinciae
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Can you find one ad from the McCain campaign that makes either of those claims?
Of course you can't, you made it up, or only seeing what you wanted to see.
Last edited by Big War Bird; October 21, 2008 at 09:27 AM.
Vicarius Provinciae
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I like negative ads.
Praeses
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Technically Its probably because 100% of mccains ads are negative ads now (to be fair, Obama has had a higher percentage of ads as negative ads then mccain throughout most of his campaign)
But it is kinda funny how all of a sudden people notice the attack ads... Not only have they been here for a very long time its also sort of silly to say that an ad that tells you why you shouldnt vote for the other canidate is somehow better then an ad that tells someone why he should vote for you. I mean whats the difference other then that people pay more attention (and therefore making them a better investment ) to attack ads.
"If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance." - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Comes Rei Militaris
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The electorate is...finicky. It's been pretty publicly obvious just from the debates that Obama has gone over his plans for if he gets elected, while McCain has a general(but not total) pattern of going after Obama's plans instead of talking about his own. Obama has the image of spending more time going over his own stuff than attacking McCain's while McCain has the opposite image. In this election in particular, the electorate has had a tendency to see that as Bad(TM).
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-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
Vicarius Provinciae
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I watched the ads, and they do not make any such claim.
Care to retract your statement to the contrary?
Praefectus
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No, I do not. Now please Stop The False Utterances.
"oooh a gypsy wind is blowing warm tonight, sky is starlit and the time is right. Now you're telling me you have to go...before you do there's something you should know." - Bob Seger
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
Comes Rei Militaris
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Just because you refuse to acknowledge poisoning the well and dog-whistle ads doesn't mean they're not there.
One thing is for certain: the more profoundly baffled you have been in your life, the more open your mind becomes to new ideas.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable. Let us prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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People aren't complaining that McCain uses attack ads. It's when his campaign, despite earlier words, runs ONLY attack ads that people get annoyed. It's one thing to have a balanced campaign-some reasons why you shouldn't vote for the other guy, some reasons why you should vote for this guy. But McCain's campaign has turned almost entirely negative.
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