What happens when you indulge the Muslim victimhood complex?

[Gauvin]

They actually begin to imagine hatecrimes being committed to themselves:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...us-attack.html

A Muslim student who said a masked gunman assaulted her after he wrote anti-Muslim slurs in a women's restroom at Elmhurst College has been arrested for filing a false police report, officials said today.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/con...id=inform_artr

A 10-year-old girl sprayed in the face with a chemical Friday, Sept. 26, while at a local Islamic mosque was not the victim of a hate crime, police Chief Richard Biehl said.

I don't know how they can even claim it was a chemical, if they found no trace of a chemical in the air or on the girl.


These are the latest FBI hate crime statistics: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table1.html

I quick look will reveal that Jews and Caucasians are over 5 times more likely to be victims of hate crimes than Muslims are. Lesbians suffer more hate crime than Muslims do, though, they're nearly tied.

Who still contends that Muslims are the new Jews? And can you please admit to being completely and ridiculously wrong? Jews are still the religious group most likely to be victim of hate crimes, by a huge margin.

[Ulyaoth]

lol, what a ridiculous nonsense. Everyone knows the poor little muslim immigrants are being hate raped, beaten, threatened, murdered, etc. nonstop. You fascists are a minority, even if you somehow cause all the problems to these poor hardworking good people, and all rational minded people will drown your racist voices out with the voices of millions of muslim immigrants to replace you.

[Gauvin]

people will drown your racist voices out with the voices of millions of muslim immigrants to replace you.

I believe that, actually, even though i'm considered a Muslim immigrant by some already. lol

Moderates, and atheists flee Sharia to come live in a free country, and then this country imports sharia-mongers who harass us once they're here.

[boofhead]

Kind of telling that when you combine the anti-Catholic and anti-Protestant "hate-crime" stats you end up with pretty much a similar stat to that as the muslims have.

The table should be viewed, though, in the context of how many muslims live in the US on a per capita basis really, for it to have any true meaning.

[Gauvin]

The table should be viewed, though, in the context of how many muslims live in the US on a per capita basis really, for it to have any true meaning.

Jews and Muslims are actually near equal in number, in the U.S., around 2%, I would say more than 2% for both.

[boofhead]

Jews and Muslims are actually near equal in number, in the U.S., around 2%, I would say more than 2% for both.

Could be Jews and muslims 'hate-criming' each other

No, actually there are approx 3 times as many Jews as muslims in the US.

I think the entire notion of a 'hate crime' is a load of crap in the first place though, so don't mind me. I'm just pointing something out more than anything.

[Каие]

Jews and Muslims are actually near equal in number, in the U.S., around 2%, I would say more than 2% for both.

Hm? Judaism is 1.5% and Islam is 0.4% in the States. You may be thinking 2% is in Britain but the Muslims and Jews here are on amiable terms.

btw regarding hate crimes on Jews in the states.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12122007...lim_381263.htm

YES MUSLIMS ARE GOOD!


As for the rest of this thread, I will give my opinion tomorrow. Yes, It will shock you. No it won't kill you.

But for now I must rest well for my wild birthday celebrations tomorrow.... cars, booze and women [maybe a bit of man :hmmm:] .
OK, I'm kidding about the booze part.

[Kanaric]

All religions have a victimhood complex in modern society, just watch O'Reilly regularly or listen to talk radio. You would think that this country is being run by bigot atheists out to destroy the Christian religion.

Its just the nature of religion, they fear a secular society. Islam, Christianity... they are no different in this respect.

[Kiljan Arslan]

in truth all beliefs have a victim hood complex, as they do a bigotry complex as gauvin is showing right now.

[jankren]

Nobody ever claim Muslims are the new Jews in USA ...

USA is the Western country where Muslims seem to be content with their condition the most compared to other Western countries which is actually ironic.

[Kanaric]

bigotry complex as gauvin is showing right now.

I think it stems from the victimhood complex because they think that the muslims and evil atheists who back them are out to destroy their "american" way of life.

[Kiljan Arslan]

also and Jankrens right. THe Muslims in the USA are quite happy with where they are Gauvin. YOur attempt at cherry-picking is quite sad.

[Gauvin]

THe Muslims in the USA are quite happy with where they are Gauvin.

That was also my point, if you missed it. They're not persecuted have as much as they'd like to claim they are.

And, I also thought using facts and statistics was a good way to make an argument. That's how I do it in university papers.... I've never seen a professor deduct points for footnotes on the grounds that it's cherry picking.

I don't think i've shown myself to be half of bigotted as you, I don't think i've shown myself as intolerant towards you or anyone else on this thread, even, i've argued, but why would I be here if I couldn't tolerate other people's opinions? All you do is slander me, so why the hypocrisy? I'm willing to let others decide on that.

I think it stems from the victimhood complex because they think that the muslims and evil atheists who back them are out to destroy their "american" way of life.

I was raised a Muslim, i'm atheist and i'm a Canadian citizen. Congrats on the prejudice though. It's pleasantly ironic. I do understood though if you've never actually been threatened yourself by an Islamist to see how it's irrational to fear Islamists, but moderate Muslims and ex-Muslims are much threatened by Islamists, and they know better than you, I can say fairly.

[Kiljan Arslan]

I was raised a Muslim, i'm atheist and i'm a Canadian citizen. Congrats on the prejudice though. It's pleasantly ironic. I do understood though if you've never actually been threatened yourself by an Islamist to see how it's irrational to fear Islamists, but moderate Muslims and ex-Muslims are much threatened by Islamists, and they know better than you, I can say fairly.

Well if the prejudice I have where my experience shows that peolpe upon giving up one belief for another tend to try to completley disassociate from that belief by attacking it. then yes I am prejudiced.

[Gauvin]

Well if the prejudice I have where my experience shows that peolpe upon giving up one belief for another tend to try to completley disassociate from that belief by attacking it. then yes I am prejudiced.

Like George Orwell when he fought for socialism and became disillusioned with it, and wrote two famous books attacking Stalinism and stalinists? He was just a foaming-at-the-mouth bigot.

You should know that when someone gives up a belief there are reasons, you can decide whether they're good or not, but they generally like to share the reasons, especially when the belief in question is considered by them to be responsible for oppression and murder, like Stalinism was, and like Islamism is currently.

Okay look, it was Gauvin who brought up the issue that Muslims like to portray themselves as the 'new persecuted Jews' and attempted to disprove that by picking stories from USA where very few if any Muslims ever complain about persecution in the first place.

You've clearly never heard of CAIR.

But for now I must rest well for my wild birthday celebrations tomorrow.... cars, booze and women [maybe a bit of man :hmmm:] .
OK, I'm kidding about the booze part.

Happy Birthday, but forgive me if I skip your party, lol.

[Sher Khan]

They actually begin to imagine hatecrimes being committed to themselves:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...us-attack.html

Jilani's report followed several weeks of tension on campus that began when some students allegedly called anti-Muslim slurs at students protesting the treatment of U.S. captives at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

As officials at the private college affiliated with the United Church of Christ last Friday called the incident a hate crime, hundreds of students rallied to show solidarity with their Muslim peers, who constitute about 25 of the school's 3,300 students.

Sounds more like a series of unfortunate events.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/con...id=inform_artr



I don't know how they can even claim it was a chemical, if they found no trace of a chemical in the air or on the girl.

A woman and 10-yr-old girl got sprayed with something. They told others, and the little girl didn't feel so hot. Some had eye irritation. This happens around Ramadan and after community tensions rise with DVD's about Islamic radicalism being mailed around by local newspapers.

I don't think they were some band of con-artists to call 911. Like the previous situation, a strange and unsolved series of unfortunate events.

These are the latest FBI hate crime statistics: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table1.html

I quick look will reveal that Jews and Caucasians are over 5 times more likely to be victims of hate crimes than Muslims are. Lesbians suffer more hate crime than Muslims do, though, they're nearly tied.

Who still contends that Muslims are the new Jews? And can you please admit to being completely and ridiculously wrong? Jews are still the religious group most likely to be victim of hate crimes, by a huge margin.

Like this thread, irrelevant to the topic.

Europe is where the demogoguery concerning Muslims and Jews is in question.

And hate crime isn't what's the issue in the first place, but the nature of the demogogue.

[Taiji]

Many people seem mentally/emotionally disabled by a desire to be a victim. Hypochondria. You get special treatment if you're sick. People are nice to you. It's like having money. Many people see themselves as victims of their parents/schools/bosses/societies/gods(haha) inneptitude and demand special treatment. It's very disappointing to find out you're normal or even well off when you're a hypochondriac. I'd imagine most of us are capable of it just like paranoia.

[jankren]

I dont hear many major complaints by Muslims about persecution in USA apart from some ignorant dummies throwing harmless insults.

Sorry but your attempt ends up in failure Gauvin. Maybe you should start another thread with examples from Europe where some people liken the situation of Muslims there with the Jews decades ago in the first place, mkay?

[boofhead]

Sorry but your attempt ends up in failure Gauvin. Maybe you should start another thread with examples from Europe where some people liken the situation of Muslims there with the Jews decades ago in the first place, mkay?

Don't play with fire.

[jankren]

Don't play with fire.

Are you talking about the Jews or what? :hmmm: