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    Tacitus talks of the culture of Germanic Tribes ;


    The host welcomes his guest with the best meal that his means allow. When he has finished entertaining him, the host undertakes a fresh role; he accompanies the guest to the nearest house where further hospitality can be had. It makes no difference that they come uninvited; they are welcomed just as warmly. No distinction is ever made between acquaintance and stranger as far as the right to hospitality is concerned. As the guest takes his leave, it is customary to let him have anything he asks for; and hist host, with as little hesitation will ask for a gift in return.

    This got me thinking.


    My question is two-fold;

    1) If a man knocks on your door right now asking if you can feed him what would you do?

    2) Would you agree the most human beings are anti-social and why?



    Personally, if someone knocked on my door right now and wanted food I'd like to think I'd give them something - but I'd be very cautious about letting them into my home.

    I think most human beings are anti-social and I've thought for a long time this is most likely due to the media - you wake up tomorrow and Sky News will be blasting out stories like MAN STABBED TO DEATH - You'll get in your car, turn the radio on and hear about how car-jackings in the area are on the increase, and when you read the paper on your lunch break you'll read about how more and more people are having their identity stolen.

    The news constantly tells you about all these bad, evil, and wicked deeds people do and as such - we are afraid of each other.

    Whenever for one reason or another I've had cause to be out in public in my army gear I can't help but notice people are friendly to me - obviously viewing me as an authority figure. I get people asking me questions; what's the time? Where is XYZ? People smile at me - I even had an old lady offer me a cookie at the bus stop. If I ask people questions or start a conversation people are friendly and happy to talk to me.

    But when I change into my normal clothes it's different - only rarely will someone ask me a question - people don't smile - people don't make eye contact - people don't want to talk - people just want to be left alone - people seem to be afraid of me - yet I wouldn't dream of hurting any of them. If I ask people questions they seem often to just want to answer the question as quickly as thye can and get away.

    Do we as a society have a duty to be nice to each other? Or is this whole "leave me alone - I don't trust you" attitude acceptable?

    /discuss!

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    You have to admit it's reasonable to not trust a total stranger. And the reason that they do trust you when you where an uniform is because they automatically asume that you are there to protect them and not to hurt them.

    to anwser your first two questions.
    1) It entirely depends upon the person knocking on the door.
    2) no, humans are social creatures. just because there are people that aren't so nice to strangers, doesn't mean they are anti-social in their private lives. Nor does it mean all humans are like that.

    We don't have the duty as a society to be nice to each other. But it does benifit society if we are.
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    I heard the Pashtun Culture of Afghanistan is one of the most hospitable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    I heard the Pashtun Culture of Afghanistan is one of the most hospitable.
    Yeah, until they decide to start sawing heads off.

    @the OP. If a guy turned up at my door seeking a meal, I would feed him. I've done it before when I was kind of broke and this old guy begged me for a feed. If he'd have asked for money I would have directed him to depart, but seriously, a guy asks for food? I'm not going to say no. That having been said, I would thoroughly scrutinize him before letting him in.

    Sheesh. If I'm ever that hungry that I have to ask someone I don't even know for a meal....I hope someone would provide for me. And in fact, I'm pretty sure someone would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Yeah, until they decide to start sawing heads off.
    Lol, I was serious. Unless you go there with a rifle pointed at them they would treat you nicely. Its their culture to provide the best accommodation for their guests.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Lol, I was serious. Unless you go there with a rifle pointed at them they would treat you nicely. Its their culture to provide the best accommodation for their guests.
    And the absolute worst for their enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    And the absolute worst for their enemies.
    Funny how we [westerners] used operate on similar principles. Now its completely up-side-down.
    The common culture of a tribe is a sign of its inner cohesion. But tribes are vanishing from the modern world, as are all forms of traditional society. Customs, practices, festivals, rituals and beliefs have acquired a flut and half-hearted quality which reflects our nomadic and rootless existence, predicated as we are on the global air-waves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    And the absolute worst for their enemies.
    Pashtuns are relatively tame when it comes to treatment of enemies, so no.

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    To be fair the socio-economics of our society are vastly different.

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    I would feed someone who came to my door, but i would not let them inside my house because that's just asking for trouble, due to how i view the world. THough I would take him to a neighbor's house for further food.

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