Traitorous scum Generals.

[Broken Pope]

I had generally thought that as long as I kept a general with my troops at all times, they would not turn rebel. Annoyingly, I also greatly enjoy carefully nurturing my troops up to 3 Gold chevrons ... even if that means a long march back to my citadels to retrain them.

You can probably imagine, therefore, my... disappointment... when 4 units of gold chevronned chivalric knights. 3 heavily upgraded heavy infantry and two pavisse crossbowmen decided to go native in the course of my long-awaited grand offensive.

To get them back, I had to kill the rebel general and pay a bribe to his successor captain to get my troops back. (9 units).

Now, without looking at the answer, anybody care to guess what that cost me..? :hmmm:

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310000 (!)

[Sub-Zero120]

why would you pay that much for 9 units?!
I would have completely crushed them with another army for being so ignorant as to rebel.....

[Gobmech]

I would have completely crushed them with another army for being so ignorant as to rebel.....

I think you missed the part about 3 gold chevrons, and probably the best weapons and armour available since they were retrained all the time.

[Sub-Zero120]

still....thats not worth that much....i could build ten armies with that much money

[Silent Assassin]

still....thats not worth that much....i could build ten armies with that much money

Yep that is right I woudn't have paid that much for that

[Surgeon]

Haha, I have the same habit and had a similar problem once. I like to take my campaign real slow and usually only have 2-3 uber-experienced armies running my entire war, so woe it was when my faction heir (!) rebelled and took with him 2 English Knights, 2 DEK, 1 Armored Swordsmen, 3 DFK and 4 Yeomen Archers, all with the latest armor upgrades, weapons bonus and exp ranging 3 silver to 3 gold.

First I had to assassinate the traitorous schmuck, then sent over my best diplomat from all the way in the Byzantine empire to try and bribe them back, but they just wouldn't agree. My coffers are usually overflowing with cash, and I was willing to pay any sum to get my men back, if only they were willing. However, after 10 or so turns negotiations led to naught and it was with a heavy heart that I brought over my two other super-armies and was about to wipe the floor with the rebels when they suddenly agreed to join for a meagre sum of ~500,000 florins

After that my troops only accompany my most loyal generals or fort-hop from settlement to settlement.

[ChewieMuse]

Lol probably three or two full armies

My god Ive had 3 full... um English armies rebel on me, traitors D:... I had in each like 9 armored swordsmen Fully upgraded 6 archers and allt hat crap D:, they were on a long trek through my provinces from the english border all the way to the russian area lol, then I had to deal with the Fing Timurids D:


I usually juast Ignore them whent hey rebel and make a new army thoguh but I hate it D:

and how the hell do you get your treasury so hi.. 500,000! D: I can only ever get as High as 10,000.. and thhen I spend it lol


By the way Surgeon... Fing hilarious Signature im still cracking up xD

[whitesoxfan]

I built up 3 big stacks to deal with the timurids, when by best general with the best troops rebelled against me, attacked the rest of my armies, and almost won! Then the Timurids came... what horrible carnage... so many good englishmen dead...

[ChewieMuse]

I built up 3 big stacks to deal with the timurids, when by best general with the best troops rebelled against me, attacked the rest of my armies, and almost won! Then the Timurids came... what horrible carnage... so many good englishmen dead...

Same here :{ I got attacked by to huge Timurid Armies, all like, at the top... D: on one of my citadels.. FUNNY THING IS I won... Lol, they sent like 4 things of elephants and just sat there at the second wall, and I had my towers just shoot them down, I knwo it was a glitch cause I didnt have the update, but STILL I won, In your face Timurids xD


lmfao... I think he likes N00bs Double A.. Lol

[Double A]

So my Faction Leader with 8 athouritah just dies and I forget that the new one only has 4. Sooooooo I send my newly created stack of uber units (IE Veit. Heavy Inf. and Veit. Archers, my CK unit I got BEFORE their time (hurray for bribes!), the rest DFKs and FKs.

Then they REBEL!!!!!!!!! (!) and I send my best diplomat to bribe them.

EPIC FAIL

I send my best assassin that isn't in the Middle East (meaning an adv. 5 sub. but I'm not gonna get my 10 sub assassins when the 'n Mongols just came, am I?) to kill him with 85% chance

EPIC FAIL

I send another assassin to kill the captain

EPIC FAIL

I send my worst diplomat in the area (he has the -1 influence but +5% on bribes trait) to bribe him

0KIE D0KIE MR GUY W3 HAZ B3N R3BLZ LNG E NUF W3 0N UR SID AGN!!!!1111one

and all for a measly 10,000 florins.

WTF?!?

[Toshi-sama]

I keep my generals loyal to me.

Heck, I won't send them on campaigns unless they are 5 loyalty and young or older and 7 loyalty

Also having pure chivalry in my family works well, I actually could never have a guy who was dreadful stay dreadful! Proof: King Rufus, Lord of Terror... 2 chivalry

[Double A]

I keep my generals loyal to me.

Heck, I won't send them on campaigns unless they are 5 loyalty and young or older and 7 loyalty

Also having pure chivalry in my family works well, I actually could never have a guy who was dreadful stay dreadful! Proof: King Rufus, Lord of Terror... 2 chivalry

You may want to work on either chiv or dread. A general with high of both isn't very useful sadly.

[Thanatos]

I hate it when they rebel. I remember playing as the Turks, and I had conquered the bottom half of Italy.

The Pope just kept sending wave after wave after WAVE of troops at me, and I sent up full stacks of men to assist my besieged cities. After I beat them off, I decide to take my best and attack Rome, finally.

What happens?

The stinking rebels.

[Tony83]

The best way to treat rebels is with impalement - the Vlad Dracul way!
That'll learn 'em, and make their eyes smart.

[Sodbuster]

If you've got money to burn and a low loyalty general, make him build a fort at the end of each turn. They won't rebel when in a fort, I think.

[Silent Assassin]

If you've got money to burn and a low loyalty general, make him build a fort at the end of each turn. They won't rebel when in a fort, I think.

that is right in forts they don't Rebel but they can get Bribed by another factions diplomat due to the fact that his loyalty isn;t good it should be easy for the other faction to do so

[Broken Pope]

I know it wasn't an efficient use of the money - but we all know how it is. After 20 turns-or-so the game is usually over as a contest. I just hate losing units.

[Double A]

Or give him StartingLoyalty trait (You know I'm talking about you you Norwegian raider scum!)

[crazedwombat]

I always keep marauding armies with at least 2 family members, usually 3. They keep each other loyal. All three will never rebel and so that means none will since parts of armies dont rebel. Plus I wont adopt or have anyone with less than 4 loyalty. And if they do have less and decent then I put them in cities, otherwise they go after rebels and pirates...all alone.

[shootingbates]

Traitors must die, simple but effective