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    Default How do I Make my own Characters?

    I am new to RTW and these Forums; however, I found the RTR (Rome Total Realism) site and modded my game. I am wondering though how do I go about making my own Generals to lead and making heirs for that General? Also, how would I make his armies that he would start with? I have tried to mod a bit on my own attempting to make a General; however with no success. How do I make say for instance a General named: Romulus Tyrannus Maximus in RTR 1.9 and give him his units and an Heir? Thanks for the Help!

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    Welcome to TWC..

    To make your own generals you want this..

    For adding armies you want this. Section 6b..

    This thread is also in the wrong place and will be moved soon.

    Good luck.

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    Moved. Hopefully this is more suitable, if not let us know and I will move it again.

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    ;Quintus; Roma (Latium)
    character Quintus, named character, leader, age 66, , x 101, y 73 
    traits GoodDefender 1, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 2
    ancillaries aged_retainer
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman princeps    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy swordsmen    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy spearmen   exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Julianus Numerius Pebius, named character, age 58, , x 101, y 74 
    traits GoodCommander 2, NaturalMilitarySkill 1, GoodRiskyAttacker 2, PublicFaith 1, GoodAdministrator 1, Intelligent 1, GoodCavalryGeneral 2
    ancillaries drillmaster
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman princeps    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy swordsmen    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy spearmen   exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Publius Cornelius Scipio, named character, heir, age 31, , x 101, y 68 
    traits PoliticsSkill 2, GoodAdministrator 3, Energetic 2
    ancillaries freeman_clerk 
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman princeps    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy spearmen   exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  aor italy spearmen   exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Tiberius Iunius Brutus, named character, age 29, , x 100, y 75 
    traits Energetic 1
    ancillaries drillmaster
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit            aor italy spearmen   exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Sextus Antio, diplomat, age 29, , x 95, y 73 
    traits GoodDiplomat  3
    character Decius Apustius Fullo, spy, age 29, , x 103, y 73 
    traits GoodSpy 4
    character Alexandrius Gaius Pebius, named character, age 28, , x 102, y 69 
    traits GoodCommander 2, NaturalMilitarySkill 1, GoodRiskyAttacker 2, PublicFaith 1, GoodAdministrator 1, Intelligent 1, GoodCavalryGeneral 2
    ancillaries merchant 
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Lucius Fabius Maximus, named character, age 28, , x 102, y 68 
    traits PoliticsSkill 2, GoodAdministrator 2, MathematicsSkill 1
    ancillaries merchant 
    army
    unit  roman generals guard cavalry early    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Julianus, admiral, age 31, , x 101, y 64 
    army
    unit  naval biremes    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  naval biremes    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    character Tertius, general, age 26, , x 95, y 71
    army
    unit  roman hastati    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit  roman velite    exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
     
    character_record  Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,  male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Manius Fabius Maximus,  male, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Decius Cornelius Scipio,  male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Marcus Cornelius Scipio,  male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Cassius Alexandrius Pebius,  male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Romulus Tyrannus Pebius,  male, age 0, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Pompeia,  female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Titiana,  female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 45, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Poppaea,  female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Alypia,  female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Helena,  female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Claudia,  female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Marcella,  female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record  Fadia,  female, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    relative  Quintus,  Pompeia,  Poppaea, Alypia,     Claudia,     Marcella,     end
    relative  Julianus Numerius Pebius,  Titiana, end
    relative  Augustus Gaius Pebius,  Helena, Cassius Alexandrius Pebius, Romulus Tyrannus Pebius, end 
    relative  Publius Cornelius Scipio,        Poppaea,     Fadia,     Decius Cornelius Scipio,     Marcus Cornelius Scipio,     end
    relative  Tiberius Iunius Brutus,        Alypia,     Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,     end
    relative  Lucius Fabius Maximus,        Claudia,     Manius Fabius Maximus,     end
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Having problems with the names. I can get the game to start; however, the 2 named charcters I created turn into Julius The Horseman and Alexandrius The Horseman... when in game not the names I picked. Also, there is no family tree, I don't have a Picture for Julius, whom I want to be the father of Alexandrius, and then in turn, Alexandrius the Father of Romulus and Cassius. So, how do I remedy this. The error I am getting when I exit the program, mind you the game starts and plays, only get an error when I exit the game totally is when I get:

    Code:
    Script Error in data/world/maps/compaign/imperial-campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 1123, column 80.
    You have chosen and invalid title (102,69) for Alexandrius Gaius Pebius (Romans_julii)
    Last edited by Romulus Tyrannus Maximus; October 21, 2008 at 07:03 PM.

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    They are called the Horseman, because you are giving them 2 levels of the GoodCavalryGeneral trait, which has an epithet associated with it. An epithet doesn't change what the family tree looks like. As for the error is means you're trying to put the character on some sort of impassable terrain.
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    The error message you say you got is actually invalid tile, i.e. the strategy map coordinates you're trying to place them at are not passable terrain. Probably a mountain or sea/river.
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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    Ok...but the characters still aren't appearing in my Family Tree, how do I fix it so they do appear?

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    Generals are not considered family members. You'd have to make him named characters for that. Then, that named character either has to be a child of another family member or be married to one of their daughters.
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    Ok...solved the Horseman and Line problems...even solved the Family Tree issue thanks to ya'll; however, once again a new problem arises. Now I can't get my middle and last names to show up on Alexandrius Gaius Pebius...it just shows Alexandrius and for Cassius Alexandrius Pebius...the name is just Cassius. Also, I made Romulus Tyrannus Maximus a son in the Maximus family and his name shows up Romulus Fabius Maximus, NOT Tyrannus. I even added the the middle and last names to the Surnames thinking that would fix it, but that didn't work...So, I need ya'lls expertise once again please. Really Thanks for replying to my messages and helping me out...This is really frustrating me!!

    Code:
    character Alexandrius Gaius Pebius, named character, age 23, , x 102, y 74 
    traits GoodCommander 2, NaturalMilitarySkill 1, GoodRiskyAttacker 2, PublicFaith 1, GoodAdministrator 1, Intelligent 1, GoodCavalryGeneral 1
    ancillaries drillmaster
    army
    unit roman generals guard cavalry early exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit roman princeps exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit aor italy swordsmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit aor italy spearmen exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    
    character Julianus, admiral, age 31, , x 101, y 64 
    army
    unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit naval biremes exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    
    character Tertius, general, age 26, , x 95, y 71
    army
    unit roman hastati exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit roman velite exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
     
    character_record Gnaeus Iunius Brutus, male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Manius Fabius Maximus, male, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Decius Cornelius Scipio, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Marcus Cornelius Scipio, male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Cassius Alexandrius Pebius, male, age 0, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Pompeia, female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Poppaea, female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Alypia, female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Claudia, female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Marcella, female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Fadia, female, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative Quintus, Pompeia, Poppaea, Alypia, Claudia, Marcella, end 
    relative Publius Cornelius Scipio, Poppaea, Fadia, Decius Cornelius Scipio, Marcus Cornelius Scipio, end
    relative Tiberius Iunius Brutus, Alypia, Gnaeus Iunius Brutus, end
    relative Lucius Fabius Maximus, Claudia, Manius Fabius Maximus, Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, end
    relative Alexandrius Gaius Pebius, Marcella, Cassius Alexandrius Pebius, end
    Last edited by Aradan; October 22, 2008 at 05:24 PM.

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    Merged the posts and tidied the code up a bit. Please don't make double posts.

    It'd be easier for those trying to help you if you used the [*code][/code*] tags to post game code in (without the asterisks).

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    There are a few rules for adding relatives:
    - Father must be at least 16 years older than the oldest child
    - Mother must be at least 12 years older than the oldest child
    - Children must be listed from oldest to youngest
    - Max of 4 children is allowed
    - If a women is both a daughter to one character and a wife to another, she must be given a last name in her character record and both of her relative records, so the AI knows it's the same women

    Fix your code to follow these rules and I think your problem will go away.
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    I tried to change the name, but I'm not sure, what last name should I put, a made up one or my characters last name....because the Father Quintus has no last name.

    Also, what about the problem with Romulus Tyrannus Maximus' name in the game showing up Romulus Fabius Maximus?

    Quote Originally Posted by HouseOfHam View Post
    There are a few rules for adding relatives:
    - Father must be at least 16 years older than the oldest child
    - Mother must be at least 12 years older than the oldest child
    - Children must be listed from oldest to youngest
    - Max of 4 children is allowed
    - If a women is both a daughter to one character and a wife to another, she must be given a last name in her character record and both of her relative records, so the AI knows it's the same women

    Fix your code to follow these rules and I think your problem will go away.
    I've met all the requirements...sons age is 0....age of parents 23 dad higher than 16...18 mom higher than 12, 1 child, and I set all of Marcella's names to Pebius...now I am getting error message of Can't find Spouse Marcella Pebius. Changed last name to Quintus, same Error "can't find Spouse Marcella Quintus" So, what's wrong now?

    Code:
    character_record Gnaeus Iunius Brutus, male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Manius Fabius Maximus, male, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Decius Cornelius Scipio, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Marcus Cornelius Scipio, male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Cassius Alexandrius Pebius, male, age 0, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Pompeia, female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Domitia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Poppaea, female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Alypia, female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Claudia, female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Marcella Pebius, female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record Fadia, female, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    relative Quintus, Pompeia, Poppaea, Alypia, Claudia, Marcella Pebius, end
    relative Kaeso Aurelius Rex, Domitia, end 
    relative Publius Cornelius Scipio, Poppaea, Fadia, Decius Cornelius Scipio, Marcus Cornelius Scipio, end
    relative Tiberius Iunius Brutus, Alypia, Gnaeus Iunius Brutus, end
    relative Lucius Fabius Maximus, Claudia, Manius Fabius Maximus, Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, end
    relative Alexandrius Gaius Pebius, Marcella Pebius, Cassius Alexandrius Pebius, end
    Last edited by Amroth; October 23, 2008 at 02:09 AM. Reason: tp

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    Quote Originally Posted by HouseOfHam View Post
    There are a few rules for adding relatives:
    - Father must be at least 16 years older than the oldest child
    - Mother must be at least 12 years older than the oldest child
    - Children must be listed from oldest to youngest
    - Max of 4 children is allowed
    - If a women is both a daughter to one character and a wife to another, she must be given a last name in her character record and both of her relative records, so the AI knows it's the same women
    Only 16 years difference between father and hild?! Damn, I was calculating it to 18 up until now. And I didn`t know the mother-child minimum gap is 12. Thanks alot!

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    Quintus is first name. Try giving him a last name, then set Marcella's last name to the same one.
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    That doesn't work...I tried giving him Scipio last name, a Julii last name and both times it said can't find spouse Poppea, I changed her last names to match Marcella's, still said can't find spouse Poppea...which is the wife of Scipio Faction Heir....this is really "grinding my gears"....any other ideas?

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    It appears in this case female last names are not required at all and the AI is still able to figure out who is who, though it's not guaranteed to always work.

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    character_record        Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,     male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Manius Fabius Maximus,     male, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Decius Cornelius Scipio,     male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Marcus Cornelius Scipio,     male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Pompeia,     female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Poppaea,     female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Alypia,     female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Claudia,     female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Marcella,     female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Fadia,     female,    age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Romulus Tyrannus Maximus,    male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Cassius Alexandrius Pebius,    male, age 0, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Domitia,    female, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative        Quintus,        Pompeia,        Poppaea,    Alypia,     Claudia,     Marcella,     end
    relative        Publius Cornelius Scipio,        Poppaea,     Fadia,     Decius Cornelius Scipio,     Marcus Cornelius Scipio,     end
    relative        Tiberius Iunius Brutus,        Alypia,     Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,     end
    relative        Lucius Fabius Maximus,    Claudia,    Manius Fabius Maximus,    Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, end
    relative        Alexandrius Gaius Pebius,    Marcella,    Cassius Alexandrius Pebius,    end
    relative        Kaeso Aurelius Rex, Domitia, end
    But, if you are going to give females last names, you have to do it in all places their name in mentioned, including character records. I tested it in ExRM. Gave Quintus, his wife, and his daughters last name of Scipio.

    Code:
    character_record        Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,     male, age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Manius Fabius Maximus,     male, age 10, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Decius Cornelius Scipio,     male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Marcus Cornelius Scipio,     male, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Pompeia Scipio,     female, age 48, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Poppaea Scipio,     female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Alypia Scipio,     female, age 27, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Claudia Scipio,     female, age 25, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Marcella Scipio,     female, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Fadia,     female,    age 13, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Romulus Tyrannus Maximus,    male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Cassius Alexandrius Pebius,    male, age 0, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record        Domitia,    female, age 30, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative        Quintus Scipio,        Pompeia Scipio,        Poppaea Scipio,    Alypia Scipio,     Claudia Scipio,     Marcella Scipio,     end
    relative        Publius Cornelius Scipio,        Poppaea Scipio,     Fadia,     Decius Cornelius Scipio,     Marcus Cornelius Scipio,     end
    relative        Tiberius Iunius Brutus,        Alypia Scipio,     Gnaeus Iunius Brutus,     end
    relative        Lucius Fabius Maximus,    Claudia Scipio,    Manius Fabius Maximus,    Romulus Tyrannus Maximus, end
    relative        Alexandrius Gaius Pebius,    Marcella Scipio,    Cassius Alexandrius Pebius,    end
    relative        Kaeso Aurelius Rex, Domitia, end
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    Ok...I didn't do that but I did follow another "How to create Character names" and it fixed the problem; however, Now the only problem I have is that no matter what, the middle name always stays the same as the fathers...i.e. Lucius Fabius Maximus named character, his Son is Manius Fabius Maximus, and Romulus Tyrannus Maximus. In game Romulus' Middle name turns to Fabius, like the Father and brother. I'm not sure but I don't think there is a way to give the son or children diffrent middle names...apparently you are stuck with your fathers last AND middle names. But, if you can find a fix or a way around that I'd be obliged, otherwise I can just change the Fabius middle name to Tyrannus, and for my own character/General, his is fine being whatever I make it.
    Last edited by Romulus Tyrannus Maximus; October 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM.

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    What did that guide suggest? Can you give me a url so I can take a look myself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HouseOfHam View Post
    What did that guide suggest? Can you give me a url so I can take a look myself?

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13968

    So am I correct in thinking that you can't change the Surname...i.e. Middle and Last names of the children...they are set to default follow there Fathers. For instance Romulus Tyrannus Maximus would not show up Tyrannus, b/c the Surname of Maximus was FABIUS MAXIMUS from the Father...and so I could not change the middle name of Fabius to Tyrannus unless I changed the Fathers middle...Is this a correct assuption or IS there a way to change the middle name?
    Last edited by Romulus Tyrannus Maximus; October 23, 2008 at 06:10 PM.

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    Default Re: How do I Make my own Characters?

    I don't think you can code in specific changable middle names. I think you can only do first names and surnames. So, if the middle name is connected to the surname, then it will always be the same within the family.

    I think a way around this would be to code in multiple middle names with the first name ie; John Howard, John Mathews, John Phillip, John Gault, etc this way there is a random chance of getting any of those names with the family surname.

    Just a thought that might help.
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