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    Default Was Iranian Hijacked Ship a Dirty Bomb Meant for Israel on Yom Kippur ?

    ok ok they didnt but maybe they tried. this is interesting, who knows if its true or not. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, this does not have the latter.

    The Iranian Death Ship

    by Baron Bodissey


    This story is an example of the Demonic Convergence in action: nuclear weapons, the Iranian effort to destroy Israel, Chinese complicity in international terrorism, and the Somali pirates, all rolled into one.

    Remember the Iranian ship that was hijacked off the coast of Somalia a few weeks ago? Pirates who came into contact with the unidentified cargo of the ship became seriously ill, and since then sixteen of them have died of what appears to be radiation poisoning.

    Now an account of what happened has been patched together: the Iranian ship was loaded with radioactive sand from China, and was en route to the Suez Canal and then the Mediterranean. The goal was to blow it up off the coast of Israel and send a lethal radioactive cloud over the Jewish state during Yom Kippur. Had it not been for the Somali free-lancers, there’s no telling what might have happened.

    Here’s the account from Shirat Devorah, via Pat Dollard:
    Hijacked Iranian Ship was a Dirty Bomb Meant for Israel on Yom Kippur

    On August 21st, 2008, the MV Iran Deyant, 44,458 dead weight bulk carrier was heading towards the Suez Canal. As it was passing the Horn of Africa, about 80 miles southeast of al-Makalla in Yemen, the ship was surrounded by speedboats filled with members of a gang of Somalian pirates who grab suitable commercial ships and hold them and their cargos and crews for ransom. The captain was defenseless against the 40 pirates armed with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades blocking his passage. He had little choice other than to turn his ship over to them. What the pirates were not banking on, however, was that this was no ordinary ship.

    The MV Iran Deyanat is owned and operated by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines (IRISL) — a state-owned company run by the Iranian military that was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of the Treasury on September 10, shortly after the ship’s hijacking.

    According to the U.S. Government, the company regularly falsifies shipping documents in order to hide the identity of end users, uses generic terms to describe shipments to avoid the attention of shipping authorities, and employs the use of cover entities to circumvent United Nations sanctions to facilitate weapons proliferation for the Iranian Ministry of Defense. The MV Iran Deyanat departed Nanjing, China, July 28, and, according to its manifest, planned to sail to Rotterdam, where it would offload 42,500 tons of iron ore and “industrial products” purchased by an unidentified “ German client”. The ship has a crew of 29 men, including a Pakistani captain, an Iranian engineer, 13 other Iranians, 3 Indians, 2 Filipinos, and 10 Eastern Europeans, stated to be Albanians.

    The MV Iran Deyanat was brought to Eyl, a sleepy fishing village in northeastern Somalia, and was secured by a larger gang of pirates — 50 onboard and 50 onshore. The Somali pirates attempted to inspect the ship’s seven cargo containers but the containers were locked. The crew claimed that they did not have the “access codes” and could not open them. Pirates have stated they were unable to open the hold without causing extensive damage to the ship, and threatened to blow it up. The Iranian ship’s captain and the engineer were contacted by cell phone and demanded to disclose the actual nature of the mysterious “powdered cargo” but the captain and his officers were very evasive. Initially they said that the cargo contained “crude oil” but then claimed it contained “minerals.” Following this initial rebuff, the pirates broke open one of the containers and discovered it to be filled with packets of what they said was “a powdery fine sandy soil”…

    Within a period of three days, those pirates who had boarded the ship and opened the cargo container with its gritty sand-like contents, all developed strange health complications, to include serious skin burns and loss of hair. And within two weeks, sixteen of the pirates subsequently died, either on the ship or on shore.

    News about the illness and the toxic cargo quickly reached Garowe, seat of the government for the autonomous region of Puntland. Angered over the wave of piracy and suspicious about the Iranian ship, authorities dispatched a delegation led by Minister of Minerals and Oil Hassan Allore Osman to investigate the situation on September 4. and they witnessed some of the deaths due to exposure to ‘something on that ship.’

    The Somali pirates initially set the ship’s ransom at $2 million and the Iranian government provided $200,000 to a local broker “to facilitate the exchange.” The $2 million dollar ransom agreement, which was supposedly secured on September 6th, never took place for reasons unknown. After September 10th, sanctions on IRISL were applied specifically because the company was said to engaged in illicit operations on behalf of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

    Serious negotiations were broken off completely. Iranian authorities subsequently denied that it agreed to the price nor had paid any money to the pirates. Nevertheless, after sanctions were applied to IRISL on September 10, Osman says, the Iranians told the pirates that the deal was off. “They told the pirates that they could not come because of the presence of the U.S. Navy.” The region is patrolled by the multinational Combined Taskforce 150, which includes ships from the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet. Subsequently, it was disclosed that the U.S. government had offered to pay $7 million to the pirates to “receive entry permission and search the vessel.” Officials in the Pentagon and the Department of State have consistently refused to comment on the situation.

    The exact nature of the cargo remains officially a mystery but officials in Puntland and Baidoa are convinced the ship was carrying weapons to Eritrea for Islamist insurgents. “We cannot inspect the cargo yet,” Osman said, “but we are sure that it is weapons.”
    The article goes on to say that warships from Russia, the USA, France, and other countries are waiting off the coast of Somalia to make sure that the ship doesn’t resume its travels without a close inspection.

    Russian intelligence does not believe that the ship was bound for Eritrea, however:
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    Although American intelligence and government sources are maintaining a strictly observed silence, the same does not apply to the Russians and so it is that we learn the real story of the MV Iran Deyanat. She was an enormous floating dirty bomb, intended to detonate after exiting the Suez Canal at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and in proximity to the coastal cities of Israel. The entire cargo of radioactive sand, obtained by Iran from China (the latter buys desperately needed oil from the former) and sealed in containers which, when the charges on the ship are set off after the crew took to the boats, will be blasted high into the air where prevailing winds will push the highly dangerous and radioactive cloud ashore.

    Given the large number of deaths from the questing Somali pirates, it should be obvious that when the contents of the ship’s locked cargo containers finally descended onto the land, the death toll would be enormous. This ship was nothing more nor less than the long-anticipated Iranian attack on Israel. Not the expected rocket attacks (which could be intercepted by the Israelis) but an even more deadly and unexpected attack by sea. It is very interesting to note that the Israeli government has in the past few weeks, been loudly demanding that the United States establish a naval blockade of Iran.
    If all this is true, Israel (and the rest of the West) has been extremely lucky so far. One of these days our luck is going to run out, however, and a murderous plan like this one will be successfully executed.

    LINK:http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...ml#readfurther
    There is a link to the OP of the story but i cant get to it since im at work
    Last edited by Pickle_mole; October 17, 2008 at 03:13 PM.

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    Nah

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    ok...just who is "Baron Bodissey" and where did this article orginated from? The [] youtube code won't work for articles, only youtube videos.

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    To the original post: What? I seriously doubt Iran would carry anything of the like out, unless of course they are soon to be destroyed...

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    Do you realize how ridiculous this is ? To bomb with stupid sand ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by attilavolciak07 View Post
    To the original post: What? I seriously doubt Iran would carry anything of the like out, unless of course they are soon to be destroyed...
    Mutually Assured Destruction only works on people who want to live, like the Soviets, it doesn't work against an enemy who is always touting that they love death more than life, and believe that being killed by their enemies sends them straight to Paradise. They really believe this, and we need to start realizing that they do, and how that fact more than any other makes them (Islamic terrorists) the most dangerous enemy the West has ever faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Mutually Assured Destruction only works on people who want to live, like the Soviets, it doesn't work against an enemy who is always touting that they love death more than life, and believe that being killed by their enemies sends them straight to Paradise. They really believe this, and we need to start realizing that they do, and how that fact more than any other makes them (Islamic terrorists) the most dangerous enemy the West has ever faced.
    Yet I do not know a single anti-israeli act of terrorism by muslims except the blowings of palestinians terrorised and brought to the end by the israelis themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracula View Post
    Yet I do not know a single anti-israeli act of terrorism by muslims except the blowings of palestinians terrorised and brought to the end by the israelis themselves.
    They've ended!?!?! You mean it's all over!? That's great news! Finally, peace in the Middle-East!

    *EDIT: Well, i've been searching for news about what you said, and it appears that a number of Palestinians still want to conquer all of Israel and kill its citizens. Thanks for the disappointment.

    9\11 is one act of terrorism that is blamed on Israel, since Bin Laden used the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as justification to kill Americans.

    I think it's wrong to think that Israel isn't under threat by terrorist groups apart from Palestinian groups, since those groups are armed and funded by states like Iran, and by rich Khaleeji donors, and Islamic charities throughout the world. I think the fact that Israel hasn't suffered a terrorist attack on the scale of 9\11 is testament to Israel's intelligence service, and its high level security more than lack of will on the part of Islamist terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Mutually Assured Destruction only works on people who want to live, like the Soviets, it doesn't work against an enemy who is always touting that they love death more than life, and believe that being killed by their enemies sends them straight to Paradise. They really believe this, and we need to start realizing that they do, and how that fact more than any other makes them (Islamic terrorists) the most dangerous enemy the West has ever faced.


    Iranian hardline Shi'a are waiting for their Mahdi, not usher in their own death before that happens.

    They are as susceptible to MAD doctrine as any other power, baseless generalization of Islamist movements aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Mutually Assured Destruction only works on people who want to live, like the Soviets, it doesn't work against an enemy who is always touting that they love death more than life, and believe that being killed by their enemies sends them straight to Paradise. They really believe this, and we need to start realizing that they do, and how that fact more than any other makes them (Islamic terrorists) the most dangerous enemy the West has ever faced.

    Ah Gauvin, how little you know about Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    Ah Gauvin, how little you know about Iran.
    amen broseph . "...makes them the most dangerous enemy the west has ever faced" lol

    too much neo-con razzle/too much Sunny D.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    amen broseph . "...makes them the most dangerous enemy the west has ever faced" lol

    too much neo-con razzle/too much Sunny D.
    Sounds like a line from 300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    Ah Gauvin, how little you know about Iran.
    Well, that's the opinion of Bernard Lewis. He is the foremost expert on Islam and the Middle-East.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    "...makes them the most dangerous enemy the west has ever faced" lol

    too much neo-con razzle/too much Sunny D.
    I'm not a neo-con, i'm a libertarian. And yes, suicide terrorists, and Jihadist states are the worst enemy the West has ever faced since now it is very possible for them to get what they've been seeking: a nuclear weapon.

    Unless you think a nuclear weapon in the hands of fanatics, is no big deal. "That's just neo-con talk"... Even Obama says that's our greatest threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post
    Well, that's the opinion of Bernard Lewis. He is the foremost expert on Islam and the Middle-East.
    I almost LOL'd.

    Bernard Lewis is to Islamic Studies as Gibbon is to History. Draw your own conclusions.

    I'm not a neo-con, i'm a libertarian. And yes, suicide terrorists, and Jihadist states are the worst enemy the West has ever faced since now it is very possible for them to get what they've been seeking: a nuclear weapon.

    Unless you think a nuclear weapon in the hands of fanatics, is no big deal. "That's just neo-con talk"... Even Obama says that's our greatest threat.
    Great logic. Because Obama totally has the balls to talk rationally about Iran when there are tons of people like you blabbing on about how they're all mindless fanatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauvin View Post

    I'm not a neo-con, i'm a libertarian.
    of course you are. i heard its quite fashionable recently since neo-cons have really ed up the US over the lat 8 years. Abandon ship.


    And yes, suicide terrorists, and Jihadist states are the worst enemy the West has ever faced since now it is very possible for them to get what they've been seeking: a nuclear weapon.
    so the US invaded two of its neighbours, filled the Gulf with warships, built bases in their northern neighbours and threatens to attack them since 2002 (also, Israel has a massive nuclear arsenal). So Iran wanting to build a deterrent is the action of "suicide terrorists" and "jihadist" thinking? Could it be..they are rational players in the International Relations arena? If they are buliding nukes.

    Unless you think a nuclear weapon in the hands of fanatics, is no big deal. "That's just neo-con talk"... Even Obama says that's our greatest threat.
    You thinking the Iranian regime are fanatics without rational thought and weighing up the advantages and disadvantages of actions is neo-con talk. It shows a distinct lack of knowing anything about the subject. Branding people fanatics and not truly understanding the nature of your enemy is unacademic and kinda gay.

    God told Bush to invade Iraq. So he says. He's got the nuclear codes. No nukey nukey for the past 8 years. His actions did kill many many people, so you may have a point. Not all fanatics wear turbans. Even though i think turbans are cool. Do you still wear a turban?




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    Also, 'Baron Bodissey' sounds a lot like the fictional character Jack Vance uses in his novels.

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    Okay, I'll bite.


    A shot in the dark: Gates of Vienna?
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Okay, I'll bite.


    A shot in the dark: Gates of Vienna?
    I'd've gone for Pearl Harbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduet View Post
    I'd've gone for Pearl Harbor.
    wat
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    It's from a blog.

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