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    McCain Sticks his tongue out when he lies:


    A few examples:

    “Greed is rewarded. Excess is rewarded.”
    “I have a fundamental belief in the goodness and strength of the American worker.”
    “I don’t believe we’re gonna go back to the Cold War. I am sure that that will not happen”
    “... loss of all the fragile sacrifice that we’ve made of American blood and treasure which grieves us all.”



    I'm sure the "He sticks his tongue out when he lies because he was a P.O.W." excuse will be invoked here.

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    The Tongue Jut

    Last night on The Colbert Report, Dr. Stephen T. Colbert (DFA) noted that John McCain was doing something peculiar with his tongue. The upshot of the joke was that McCain was repeatedly sticking his tongue out like a reptile.




    While the late-night laughanistas were having their fun, as a professional poker player I instantly recognized an increasingly well-known poker tell that I’ve been able to use to my advantage at the table.

    Retired FBI agent Joe Navarro, a Bluff Magazine columnist and author of Read ‘Em and Reap, a book on poker tells culled from his professional interrogation experience, has written about the “tongue jut,” which is exactly what McCain was doing in the Colbert debate clips. Its significance?
    Tongue-jutting behavior is a gesture used by people who think they have gotten away with something or are “caught” doing something. I have seen this behavior in flea markets both in the United States and in Russia, among street vendors in Lower Manhattan, at poker tables in Las Vegas, and in business meetings. In each case, the person made the gesture – tongue between the teeth without touching the lips – at the conclusion of some sort of a deal or as a final nonverbal statement. This behavior has several meanings – depending on specific situations – but is usually associated with one of these: I got caught (taking candy from a drawer), gleeful excitement (look at what I just did, Mom), I got away with something (and I didn’t get caught), I did something foolish, or I am naughty.
    Naturally, this made me curious as to what exactly McCain was saying when his tongue jutted. So, today, I watched a replay of the whole debate tape.

    A few examples:

    “Greed is rewarded. Excess is rewarded.”
    “I have a fundamental belief in the goodness and strength of the American worker.”
    “I don’t believe we’re gonna go back to the Cold War. I am sure that that will not happen”
    “... loss of all the fragile sacrifice that we’ve made of American blood and treasure which grieves us all.”

    Take a look:



    What can we conclude from this? I’m not a trained psychologist, but I have used observation of this particular tell in the past to my financial advantage. Usually when I’m observing two players are in a hand against each other, one decides to make a laydown, and the other tongue juts when that happens, I’ll mentally capture their entire body language during the hand in my memory bank, and when I see it again, I’ll assign greater likelihood that the opponent is bluffing. I’ve profited from this tell.

    Does that mean McCain is getting away with something he knows he shouldn't? Not necessarily -- he could be excited to be scoring points -- but Navarro's long FBI experience tells us this unconscious reptile-brain mimic is in that ballpark. Perhaps trained body language experts will see the clips and make more definitive conclusions about what McCain is doing here.

    Looked at as a composite body of jut-work, I notice these are definitely moments when McCain is feeling pretty good about himself and the points he's making. McCain partisans may even like this clip being out there, because, juts or no juts, they're a lot of the comments he wanted to get in. Every mention of General Petraeus seems to be something McCain feels good about, for example.

    Or he could just have a really hilarious tic and it could mean nothing.
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    He's a lizard, obviously. David Icke was right.
    'When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they believe in anything. '

    -Emile Cammaerts' book The Laughing Prophets (1937)

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    For some strange reason I remember hearing a tale that Bush was a secret reptile...perhaps it will be a dynasty of reptilian rulers in the United States?

    (looks in dismay at the spam Attila generated without using any logical response to the topic at hand)

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    I stick my tongue out when I make a dirty joke ... not when I lie...
    It does have to do with getting away with something, but I have never heard of a person sticking his tongue out becuase he got away with a verbal lie >< Sure if you screw someone in a market but a lie?

    And that video... hes licking his lips... You cannot place you tongue between you tongue that fast xD

    Why bring this up? Its as bad as McCain trying to tie Obama with acorn xD
    Last edited by WrathofTulkas; October 16, 2008 at 09:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrathofTulkas View Post
    I stick my tongue out when I make a dirty joke ... not when I lie...
    It does have to do with getting away with something, but I have never heard of a person sticking his tongue out becuase he got away with a verbal lie >< Sure if you screw someone in a market but a lie?

    And that video... hes licking his lips... You cannot place you tongue between you tongue that fast xD

    Why bring this up? Its as bad as McCain trying to tie Obama with acorn xD
    It's not that bad -- tis interesting and this certainly is the first time a debate ended with one of the candidates doing this (see below), and the above explanation is more flattering than "he's insane."

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    ^At which point a group of Japanese tourists screamed 'Godzilla!!!' and ran away.
    'When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they believe in anything. '

    -Emile Cammaerts' book The Laughing Prophets (1937)

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    I mean he is just licking his lips... if it was just one of those "oh hehe look what I got away wtih" there would be distinct facial expressions... microexpressions but I didnt see any

    I dont know what hes doing in that picture but its funny as hell xD

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    I explained what he was doing in the sticky presidential thread recently but ill will say it again here. Basically after the debate ended and the candidates shook hands McCain proceeded to follow Obama counterclockwise around the desk but stopped abruptly and made this gesture as if to say "I got caught," then went the other way.

    It happen so fast but the cameras still caught it, poor McCain. Anyway... I noticed his blinking a lot and thats a tell tale sign of lying or being deceitful. Basically the more you blink the more your either infatuated or thinking of the next thought to say. Certain blinking could also mean that you are repulsed by what another person is saying.

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    It's like Le Chifre, he has a 'twitch' when you know he's bluffing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald von Wolkenstein View Post

    What can we conclude from this? I’m not a trained psychologist, but I have used observation of this particular tell in the past to my financial advantage. Usually when I’m observing two players are in a hand against each other, one decides to make a laydown, and the other tongue juts when that happens, I’ll mentally capture their entire body language during the hand in my memory bank, and when I see it again, I’ll assign greater likelihood that the opponent is bluffing. I’ve profited from this tell.

    Does that mean McCain is getting away with something he knows he shouldn't? Not necessarily -- he could be excited to be scoring points -- but Navarro's long FBI experience tells us this unconscious reptile-brain mimic is in that ballpark. Perhaps trained body language experts will see the clips and make more definitive conclusions about what McCain is doing here.

    Looked at as a composite body of jut-work, I notice these are definitely moments when McCain is feeling pretty good about himself and the points he's making. McCain partisans may even like this clip being out there, because, juts or no juts, they're a lot of the comments he wanted to get in. Every mention of General Petraeus seems to be something McCain feels good about, for example.

    Or he could just have a really hilarious tic and it could mean nothing.
    McCain's tongue movement, seriously?
    This is the same level of retardness as that woman on Fox with her Terrorist fist jab rant.
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    Thread worthy? i think not.

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