The U.S Congress were told that Martial Law would be inacted if they didn't support the bailout bill.

[Roman Rapper]

Right, let me tell you what is happening with this bailout:It's a stick-up job.

Imagine you have just arrived back at your place of residence. You open your front door and suddenly you smell petrol. You walk into your living room and you see a man standing there with a petrol can in one hand and a match in the other.
The man says, " I have just covered this place in petrol. If you don't give me all your money right now I'm going to make sure this whole place burns."

This has all been planned. The U.S has been bankrupt for a long long time and for the last decade or so the U.S national debt has been so huge as to be complety unpayable. This crisis has come about not because of bad homeowner loans but because of the derivatives market. The controling private families who run the FED and the global economy simply switched off thier supply of credit to nations. As a result of this China no longer has anything to gain from propping up the U.S economy. More to the point, The only intrest China has in the U.S now is the vain hope that they mght get back some of the 2 trillon they have already invested.

Less than 10 families control more than 60% of all the wealth in the world. These people will make sure Martial law will be in place in selected areas of the U.S by March 2009.

[Big War Bird]

Can you say hyperbole?

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Is that pronounced "High per bowl" ?

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

Tin foil hats, now 3 for $1

[Roman Rapper]

Need more proof? well here's another elected U.S offical who also wishes to make a complaint about intimidation.




These are elected officals - the supposed guardians of the republic - being directly coerced into voting the opposite way than they had intended to do so.
The two guys tell you as much in the video; threatened with martial law, not even allowed to read the bill before being forced to pass it, being thrown out of meetings.

Just for clarity:

1. Threatened with martial law if they voted no.
2. They were NOT allowed to read it before it was passed.
3. The second gentleman claims that he was not even allowed to debate it and was thrown out of meetings.


Remember: these are elected officals. These are incredibly disturbing developments.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Need more proof? well here's another elected U.S offical who also wishes to make a complaint about intimidation.




These are elected officals - the supposed guardians of the republic - being directly coerced into voting the opposite way than they had intended to do so.
The two guys tell you as much in the video; threatened with martial law, not even allowed to read the bill before being forced to pass it, being thrown out of meetings.

Just for clarity:

1. Threatened with martial law if they voted no.
2. They were NOT allowed to read it before it was passed.
3. The second gentleman claims that he was not even allowed to debate it and was thrown out of meetings.


Remember: these are elected officals. These are incredibly disturbing developments.

I heard about his yesterday that they were apparently held in a room and were not allowed to leave until this sign an unspecified document -- now if Paulson were O.J. he'd be looking at possible life imprisonment for kidnapping -- but thus far I haven't heard much about the martial law aspect of this.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Need more proof? well here's another elected U.S offical who also wishes to make a complaint about intimidation.

Absolutely he is complaining about intimidation, but all the anti-Bush comments in this thread surprise me as BOTH the Dem and the Rep said it was the intimidation by the Speaker of the House, who happens to be a Democrat.

Just for clarity:

1. Threatened with martial law if they voted no.
2. They were NOT allowed to read it before it was passed.
3. The second gentleman claims that he was not even allowed to debate it and was thrown out of meetings.

1. They were NOT threatened with martial law as everyone here says. His exact words were, starting at second 1.29 "Mr Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the Speaker last night." That's part of the Martial Law clause of the House Operating Procedures.

Under the martial law procedure, long-standing House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation and the House floor vote on that legislation — so that Members can learn what they are being asked to vote on — are swept away. Instead, under “martial law,” the Leadership can file legislation with tens or hundreds of pages of fine print and move immediately to debate and votes on it, before Members of Congress, the media, or the public have an opportunity to understand fully what provisions have been altered or inserted into the legislation behind closed doors. This is the procedure that the Leadership intends to use to muscle through important bills in the next two days.

Other sources:
http://www.rense.com/general83/mart.htm
http://happy_as_kings.typepad.com/ha...al-law-in.html
http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml

http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/20...-house-of.html

According to Representative Mike Burgess (R-TX) Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, has declared Martial Law upon the House of Representatives, throwing duly elected republicans out of meetings concerning the Financial Crisis Bailout Bill!!!!!!

This is being misreported all over the place as something instigated by Bush, and its being done by the party that actually initiated the procedure. Dirty politics at its worst. The fact that such a procedure even exists is enough to piss me off, but then turning the facts around into a complete lie is typical of politicians the world over.

And the fact that ANY member of the House on either side got thrown out of a meeting about something like this is enough in my mind to have some people removed from office.

[bigfootedfred]

1. They were NOT threatened with martial law as everyone here says. His exact words were, starting at second 1.29 "Mr Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the Speaker last night." That's part of the Martial Law clause of the House Operating Procedures.

And the fact that ANY member of the House on either side got thrown out of a meeting about something like this is enough in my mind to have some people removed from office.

then whats this?


his exact words dont sound anything like the ones you have listed
"members were even told there would be martial law in america if we voted no"

[christof139]

They weren't told martial law would be declared if they didn't pass the bill, they were told that if the bill fails then the stock market would drastically crash thus creating instability in the nation and possible civil unrest. Big difference.

Stock markets perhaps should be frozen at the moment with no trading taking place in order to alleviate undo panic and speculation that is running rampant all over the earth. No reason for this, and unbridled emotions are out of control and need to be controlled by a temporary global freeze on stock trading.

Just my 2-cents.

Chris

[Iscariott]

They weren't told martial law would be declared if they didn't pass the bill, they were told that if the bill fails then the stock market would drastically crash thus creating instability in the nation and possible civil unrest. Big difference.

Chris

Thats funny, because he was very specific about martial law being implemented.

[christof139]

Thats funny, because he was very specific about martial law being implemented.

You are reading something into what was said that wasn't said.

Seems you are another one of those that jump to conclusions based on misinterpretations and/or personal bias and spite based on assininity.

Chris

[Carach]

but but .. i thought the us government wanted martial law enacted to take away your FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMM?

[Samuel Adams]

No, no, no no no! The US has kind, benevolent and Republic loving leaders who wish nothing if not to preserve all the liberty, and all the rights, we have traditionally held dear. Just make sure you don't read any laws post Jan 1 2002.

Of course, most Americans find it much more agreeable to assume they're doing what's best for the nation so they don't have to come out of their hovels and actually fight for something. After all, there's NFL on the 'tube and a few beers left in the 'fridge.

The bottom line is, most US Citizens today are far more a group of cowards and spineless whiners then a group of Patriotic Americans, no matter what they want you to believe.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Well, maybe I will finally be able to sell some of these posters:

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[Kanaric]

I think its funny that topics on this forum are reduced to people mocking eachother. If anything this topic is another example as to this forums decline and how debate and discussion pretty much lacking compared to a couple of years ago. Not just in conspiracy theorist topics, but in most if not every in this forum, all people do is rehash rhetoric word for word and flame.

I wonder if it has to do with the TW series becoming more like mass market garbage for 14 year olds more and more with each release?

[Roman Rapper]

I think its funny that topics on this forum are reduced to people mocking eachother. If anything this topic is another example as to this forums decline and how debate and discussion pretty much lacking compared to a couple of years ago. Not just in conspiracy theorist topics, but in most if not every in this forum, all people do is rehash rhetoric word for word and flame.

I wonder if it has to do with the TW series becoming more like mass market garbage for 14 year olds more and more with each release?

Exactly. I often make threads like this one with the hope of educating people as to the things that are going on and the things that are coming. Half the time all I get back is lame jokes about Mongols or people saying that I'm some kind of Taliban supporter.

[Carach]

Exactly. I often make threads like this one with the hope of educating people as to the things that are going on and the things that are coming. Half the time all I get back is lame jokes about Mongols or people saying that I'm some kind of Taliban supporter.

yea i feel ur pain. i got spammed with shite when i posted up news about russian assasinations.

Dont hope to have a decent conversation on twc these days...

[Noble Savage]

I'm going to agree with some of you.Lets stop the "Tin Foil Hats" and the bloody "Mongol" jokes.They are old and most of them are off-topic and as such are subject to the Terms of Service. Please guys ,I'm begging you

Ta

Noble Savage

[Admiral Piett]

I think its funny that topics on this forum are reduced to people mocking eachother. If anything this topic is another example as to this forums decline and how debate and discussion pretty much lacking compared to a couple of years ago. Not just in conspiracy theorist topics, but in most if not every in this forum, all people do is rehash rhetoric word for word and flame.

I wonder if it has to do with the TW series becoming more like mass market garbage for 14 year olds more and more with each release?

Here, here.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

I think its funny that topics on this forum are reduced to people mocking eachother. If anything this topic is another example as to this forums decline and how debate and discussion pretty much lacking compared to a couple of years ago. Not just in conspiracy theorist topics, but in most if not every in this forum, all people do is rehash rhetoric word for word and flame.

I wonder if it has to do with the TW series becoming more like mass market garbage for 14 year olds more and more with each release?

Yeah because you should definitely come to a gaming forum for in depth political analysis. This is not the place for fun and games.