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    Default Kremlin at it again?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7670518.stm

    the russians sure like to dabble ...

    or is it just yet another coincidence?

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    mercury. when Kremlin runs out of money to pay for pollonium-210.

    very soon people will start chocking on their bowl of soup and blame Kremlin for assassination attempts.
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    And then someone dares calling me a ''conspiracy theorist'' - the BBC should be in the dictionary under - paranoid Russofobia


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    Its like the Cold War !

    Assainations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojvoda Dragutin Keserović View Post
    And then someone dares calling me a ''conspiracy theorist''
    nah you're just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojvoda Dragutin Keserović View Post
    And then someone dares calling me a ''conspiracy theorist'' - the BBC should be in the dictionary under - paranoid Russofobia
    Contrary to your beliefs, the BBC didn't throw any accusations on the Russians. Read the article again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7670518.stm

    the russians sure like to dabble ...

    or is it just yet another coincidence?

    You know what i want to see? The West actually allow democracy to flourish countries instead of smacking it upside the head and trying to support dissidents that will be more favorable to Western business interests. The fact that there isn't a serious opposition party in many countries that oppose the US is because the US supports them. Why? So the US can get all the natural resources it wants. What does the US do? Put a country in a huge debt and then say "since you can't pay off your debts, give our companies your oil who will then give it to us?" If they say no, they get a coup up their ass or they get invaded. Classical examples are Chile in 1970 and Iraq. Chile, what did the US do when its business interests weren't getting all the countries profits? The US supported a reactionary coup by the military. What did the US do when Iraq wouldn't hand over its oil? It got its ass invaded and bombed. But no worries, they got all their US based oil corporations a nice playground.

    All of you deep down want a Russia that can be raped of its national resources and profits. Don't you people have any sense of moral responsibility? Let everyone else suffer so you can get all the money in world?

    I'm sick of this . Open your damn eyes to the fact that the president of Iran, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Russia have not been elected by the few insane dissidents but instead elected by the common people, the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendI View Post
    You know what i want to see? The West actually allow democracy to flourish countries instead of smacking it upside the head and trying to support dissidents that will be more favorable to Western business interests. The fact that there isn't a serious opposition party in many countries that oppose the US is because the US supports them. Why? So the US can get all the natural resources it wants. What does the US do? Put a country in a huge debt and then say "since you can't pay off your debts, give our companies your oil who will then give it to us?" If they say no, they get a coup up their ass or they get invaded. Classical examples are Chile in 1970 and Iraq. Chile, what did the US do when its business interests weren't getting all the countries profits? The US supported a reactionary coup by the military. What did the US do when Iraq wouldn't hand over its oil? It got its ass invaded and bombed. But no worries, they got all their US based oil corporations a nice playground.

    All of you deep down want a Russia that can be raped of its national resources and profits. Don't you people have any sense of moral responsibility? Let everyone else suffer so you can get all the money in world?

    I'm sick of this . Open your damn eyes to the fact that the president of Iran, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Russia have not been elected by the few insane dissidents but instead elected by the common people, the majority.
    um, what?

    how does in every thread in the mudpit, the US somehow gets blamed for something when it wasn't even part of the thread in the first place?!
    so hows about you actually argue the ORIGINAL accusation rather than go on some random tangent about the US...
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    Just another rusophobic hypocrisy from western media. Every time someone somehow related to Russia dies, they blame Russian government. And non of those media cares about "connections" of Politkovskaya with chechen mob, who obviously "silenced" her. Its crap like "OMG Putin wantz to bring Sovietz bek!" is what important to western "ministry of truth".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailThor View Post
    Just another rusophobic hypocrisy from western media.
    Oh, that´s a classic.

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    Its crap like "OMG Putin wantz to bring Sovietz bek!" is what important to western "ministry of truth".
    Correction, it sells papers/ratings.

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    no it was obviously planted by the US so russia would be blamed.
    according to exarch I am like
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    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

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    Russia STRONG!
    falnk with cavlary. stay a way from muder hoels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Russia STRONG!
    ...and never waste their time in considering other countries soverignity.

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    i put a question mark in my post, but apparently that means im accusing russia along with the bbc (despite the fact that the bbc did no such thing)

    thanks for making my day lads, this section of the forum had been lacking the russian e-rage spam of late.

    would anyone like to post up something constructive? The facts in the bbc article (this woman being a representative of many kremlin critics etc..representing people that have had attempts on their lives in the past....) make for a good case to argue that it was indeed a warning from the kremlin, an attempt to stop lawful trials to take place and so on so forth.

    Certainly this kind of stuff doesnt randomly appear in someone's car by mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman View Post
    um, what?

    how does in every thread in the mudpit, the US somehow gets blamed for something when it wasn't even part of the thread in the first place?!
    so hows about you actually argue the ORIGINAL accusation rather than go on some random tangent about the US...
    part of the notorious russian debating strategy.
    Last edited by Carach; October 15, 2008 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    i put a question mark in my post, but apparently that means im accusing russia along with the bbc (despite the fact that the bbc did no such thing)

    thanks for making my day lads, this section of the forum had been lacking the russian e-rage spam of late.

    would anyone like to post up something constructive? The facts in the bbc article (this woman being a representative of many kremlin critics etc..representing people that have had attempts on their lives in the past....) make for a good case to argue that it was indeed a warning from the kremlin, an attempt to stop lawful trials to take place and so on so forth.

    Certainly this kind of stuff doesnt randomly appear in someone's car by mistake.
    There are thousands of anti-Kremlin journalists in Russia within its territory. The idea of Medvedev trying to ice them one by one is the beacon of stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailThor View Post
    There are thousands of anti-Kremlin journalists in Russia within its territory. The idea of Medvedev trying to ice them one by one is the beacon of stupidity.
    Shes pretty high profile, in this instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smythes View Post
    Shes pretty high profile, in this instance.
    There are many better and smarter jounalists - like Pozdner or Svanidze. They are on TV and they are much more popular, unlike Politkovskaya.

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    So basically the bottom line is this:

    Prominent human rights lawyer had mercury in her car and suspects that it was her fellow nationals who wish to put her off taking part in high profile cases or even put her down altogether.

    BBC reported the case. Made no allegations other than conveying Ms Moskalenko's suspicions.

    How the one comes to the conclusion that the west is stifling Russian democracy and meddling in their matter is beyond me.

    Go and read the flippin article again instead of giving us your typical "Russia is great and the west is trying to make us look bad" pathetic BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailThor View Post
    There are thousands of anti-Kremlin journalists in Russia within its territory. The idea of Medvedev trying to ice them one by one is the beacon of stupidity.
    even if there were thousands, some 200 have been mysteriously killed over putin's reign..thats still a huge ratio there hailthor.

    Quote Originally Posted by eizo View Post
    They allready have them under morons and moral sluts ...
    my my you certainly do bring substance and intelligence to a thread

    pretty ironic that u would paint the bbc to be evil anti russian/serbian propaganda machine when ur the one spamming all kinds of crap at people that point out facts and employ logic in their arguments. (need i refer back to when i twice showed the russian possy of the forum that the bbc was, despite russian e-rage claims, neutral over the georgia conflict for example..?)
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