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    Oh i know this is gonna get all you obama worshippers foaming at the mouth


    so what do you think? interesting, no?

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    Yes he is, and I HATE Obama.
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    Pickle_mole, read some books...

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    I believe it. Why doesnt Obama show his Birth certificate and have done with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Champion View Post
    I believe it. Why doesnt Obama show his Birth certificate and have done with it?
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    Obama is every bit a legal as McCain, whom they had to change the law for to make it legal for him to be President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vequor View Post
    Obama is every bit a legal as McCain, whom they had to change the law for to make it legal for him to be President.
    Um no law was passed for Mccain, what you probably mean is the non binding resolution after morons started to suggest Mccain wasnt eligible. It is a nonsense issue on both cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vequor View Post
    Obama is every bit a legal as McCain, whom they had to change the law for to make it legal for him to be President.
    McCain was born on a military instalation in Panama to parents stationed there. The laws are very clear about this: He is a citizen. I have had alot of friends have children while stationed over seas, and there is never any question of their national citizenship status.

    Obama's story is not even comparable to McCain's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugin84 View Post
    McCain was born on a military instalation in Panama to parents stationed there. The laws are very clear about this: He is a citizen. I have had alot of friends have children while stationed over seas, and there is never any question of their national citizenship status.

    Obama's story is not even comparable to McCain's
    Obama is ing born in Hawaii. I guess Hawaii isn't America.
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    Quite believable. Which is rare in the case of such videos. That would mean a civil war, no less.

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    One thing is clear: the director is a propaganda genius.

    And the question is simple.

    I am running for president of the US. A loon accuses me of not being a US citizen born in the states, and files a court case against me.

    What do I do?

    I provide the documents which refute him, obviously.


    Why do otherwise?

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    You use the term genius pretty liberaly, don't you ummon?
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    Yes, Barack Obama is a legal citizen, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    You use the term genius pretty liberaly, don't you ummon?
    Actually, no. Infact, I am generally very severe in my judgements.

    Fact is: the idea is simple, elegant and masterful. And you cannot object. At least logically.

    I can think of only one reason why Obama is doing so. That would be that he wants to exploit this as a further weapon in his campaign later, by disproving the claim. That might work, the rest, no.
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    Is Obama a legal citizen
    Is that even relevant? I mean, in the remotest sense? Here you have someone with a clear plan for the future and who's probably your best bet at getting the country back to Clinton levels of financial prosperity, and some guy is going to try and discredit him because Obama's mother might not have emptied the contents of her womb in a US hospital.

    Weeeeeell ok. Next time I'm on a train and it's headed on a collission course with another train on the same track, I'll try and pit the crowd against the only guy wanting to slam the brakes just because he's not properly trained in operating a railway vehicle.

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    Law is law. If he is not he cannot run. Otherwise, poor Schwarzenegger's rights have been infringed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Law is law. If he is not he cannot run. Otherwise, poor Schwarzenegger's rights have been infringed...
    My point was more that it's a rather pointless addition to law. I think in Schwarzy's case the point is more obvious. He spent the first 21 years of his live outside the US. Obviously a US president would require more than that. Hell, he still can't speak accentless English .

    I think the location of someone's place of birth is about as irrelevant as it gets really. I understand that it's in the law. I'm just saying that it needs to be changed and that IMO common sense dictates it should just be ignored.

    Probably not an entirely uncontroversional thing to say, but I think that if a people value the location of childbirth more than they value the history of a presidential candidate in their country and his plans for the future, they don't even deserve him.

    Obama can become prime minister over here in Europe any day of the week, watch me care about where he spent the rest of his life 8D

    EDIT: And IMO, Schwarzenegger should be allowed to run for Pres. just the same. I think it's a ridiculous limitation. When was this even added? Because until Martin van Buren, the 8th pres of the US, no American president was even born an American citizen (edit: this previously said "american soil" which is wrong). Which of course entirely makes sense. But it makes me understand why this law was added even less.
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    You must be pretty desperate, if this is the best you can dredge up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamaeleo View Post
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    You must be pretty desperate, if this is the best you can dredge up!
    Interesting though. Why is exactly that he is desperate? What's the logical fault of the argument? I am curious, really. I see none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Interesting though. Why is exactly that he is desperate? What's the logical fault of the argument? I am curious, really. I see none.
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