And then what...?

[Exarch]

the mayan/incan religion and hinduism among others postulate the existence of previous realities/existences, for eg

the mayans believed the world and reality to be cyclical, and that they could predict the future by looking into the past; that our current existence was like the 4th or 5th incarnation.

ditto with the hindu religions, the whole cycle of vishnu and shiva the destroyer, what with this world being the 4th-5th-6th (?) incarnation of reality.

i'm interested to know what you think of this rather interesting aspect of birth and rebirth.

And to those of the judeo-christian faith (that includes muslims), what do you suppose happens after The End of Days (whereupon you christians all get to party happily with JC being married whilst we poor sinner endure 'a lake of fire')
right, so then what.
what happens after this 'ragnarok/armageddon'??!

[Visitor13]

And to those of the judeo-christian faith (that includes muslims), what do you suppose happens after The End of Days (whereupon you christians all get to party happily with JC being married whilst we poor sinner endure 'a lake of fire')
right, so then what.
what happens after this 'ragnarok/armageddon'??!

You've answered yourself. Some people get eternal Auschwitz, others get eternal Disneyland.

[Exarch]

You've answered yourself. Some people get eternal Auschwitz, others get eternal Disneyland.

but then what happens after that?
ppl will still have free will

[Medicus]

You've answered yourself. Some people get eternal Auschwitz, others get eternal Disneyland.

So much for the notion of an all-loving God.

but then what happens after that?
ppl will still have free will

What, you think the citizens of Hell will stage a rebellion?

[Exarch]

What, you think the citizens of Hell will stage a rebellion?

that's the beauty of free will
anything's possible

[Ciabhán]

I am willing to start planning the rebellion now.....just in case.

[Vladimir Lenin]

I reject Revelations. It's a sham of a Biblical Book, the man was on drugs or hallucinogenics.

Jesus forgives all, he died for everyone.

[Exarch]

I reject Revelations. It's a sham of a Biblical Book, the man was on drugs or hallucinogenics.

Jesus forgives all, he died for everyone.

ok, so we die and we go...where?

[Vladimir Lenin]

ok, so we die and we go...

To God.

[Exarch]

To God.

and then?

[Vladimir Lenin]

and then?

Eternity.

[Jams79]

Oooohh! if it's wish granting for eternity then I'm back in

[Vladimir Lenin]

Oooohh! if it's wish granting for eternity then I'm back in

No Jams,

God does not want you to be miserable in the after-life, which is why if one really wanted to they could go off into oblivion.

[Jams79]

My mother always said she was christian because if she believed in God and was proven wrong it made no difference, whereas if she was atheist and proved wrong she would go to hell. That was when I realised that most religion (apparently excluding your's Arian) was just organised bullying "Believe this or else!"

[Vladimir Lenin]

My mother always said she was christian because if she believed in God and was proven wrong it made no difference, whereas if she was atheist and proved wrong she would go to hell. "

It's called Pascal's wager and it's a flawed way to go about your religious beliefs. Mainly because in the end God will forgive all, and we will all be with him for eternity.

That was when I realised that most religion (apparently excluding your's Arian) was just organised bullying "Believe this or else!"

Sadly, most religion is organized bullying. The main problem with it is that it's impossible to not be selfless. If you only follow and worship to get into heaven then are you really serving God or serving your own ends?

Where as if God has forgiven us all and saved us all through Jesus' sacrifice, the impetus is no longer selfish, but one of trying to please God and serve him through serving others.

[Medicus]

Can I just opt for oblivion please God? Its great that you love me - and I love you too. But do you think I might just please not have to endure an eternity of sentience?

If given the choice, I would opt for a few centuries of activity, following by several thousand years of hibernation. That way, eternity wouldn't be so dull.

Sure, you could, but considering Heaven contains only people who would never do such a thing (or ever do such a thing again), the question isn't really valid.

The ability to commit immoral acts is still there, unless we're metaphorically (or literally!) neutered upon entering the afterlife.

Even if there's 'rape' it wont be a concept as we view rape in this life. With 72 angelic virgins who wants to rape anyway?

I wonder: is the sex you'll be having with these virigns consensual? And what do women receive after death?

Sadly, most religion is organized bullying.

Christianity, of course, is an exception.

[Vladimir Lenin]

Christianity, of course, is an exception.

No, the Christian Church has degenerated into Organized Bullying, churches extolling tithes and donations from their congregations etc...

Name a Christian Denomination or Church and I'll tell you how I disagree with them or how they consider me a heretic.