Peleponesus Total War

[Saint_jimmyz]

This is an ideas thread for a potential mod called Peleponesus Total War, based upon the peleponesian war between the Athenian Empire and her allies and the Spartan Alliance. The mod will be set a decade before the war (440BC), will use a four-turn year and run until approx 350BC.

Does such a mod exist? And if not, who would be willing to help me? Most of the research and faction editing I can do, but I may need a scripter and a modeller/skinner.

EDIT: I have found a mod doing just this, based outside TWCenter. I will see if they need another mod team member. As far as I am concerned, this thread is now redundant and closed.

[Saint_jimmyz]

I have recieved PM's voicing support for this mod, and as the previous one folded, I am willing to restart this thread if any one is interested.

[jakobh94]

I am interested, i can skin. We can use KLAs hoplites for this and redone them a bit, send him a pm, i think he will be happy to get such a pm.

[Saint_jimmyz]

I have pm'd KLA about this. Its good to have a skinner! While I can (just about) map, and can do a fair bit of the text editing, that is one thing I am hopeless at.

Factions: As we are covering the Peleponnesian war, we should only cover the factions involved. Aside from the obvious Athenian Empire and Spartan Alliance, I think we should include the Boetian League, the City of Corinth and the Argive League. While the Corithnians and the Argives started allied to Sparta, and the Boetians allied to Athens, This was not always the case. Any more factions we should include?

[♔Sherlock♔]

Well, it depends on how big the map is going to be. :hmmm:

[Saint_jimmyz]

Good point. Do we include Sicily, Thrace, and the Ionian cities? Or do we just stick to the main theatre of the conflict? Doing the former will require a lot more work.

[♔Sherlock♔]

I think the former, because it will make many different theatre's of war.

[jakobh94]

I think Syracuse should be a own City state and not ruled by the Corinthians, but i do not know just yet what i think for 100%.
If anyone has pictures on city states-specified hoplites, you can just post it here and i can make a unit example, just to show my skill.

[Saint_jimmyz]

I think we should go for a similar sort of approach to Hic est Lacedaemon when it comes to unit design. The problem with encompassing Asia Minor and Sicily is that we run the risk of making a mod too similar to Hic est Lacedaemon and Hegemonia.

[jakobh94]

And what aproach is that?

[Saint_jimmyz]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42897

Thats Sparta, for example.

I don't want to tell you how to skin hoplites, you are the artist, not me

[jakobh94]

How do you mean? That we should use their names and make our own hoplites?

[Saint_jimmyz]

I just meant the overall style.

[jakobh94]

Want me to skin like that? Exactly or somewhat like that?

BI, RTW 1.5 or ALEX?

BI: Gives you sheild wall
RTW 1.5: Gives you ... nothing better than the other games
ALEX: With this we can make specific characters and we have alot more unit space

[♔Sherlock♔]

And Alex gives a really good AI

[Saint_jimmyz]

And Alex gives a really good AI

Therefore Alex. Could we use shield wall for the hoplites, or is it better to stick with Alex?

Just give us an example of how you would skin hoplites. Your choice.

[jakobh94]

Reskinned from KLAs corinthian hoplite to: Spartan Hoplite and Spartan Heavy Hoplite

[jakobh94]

Sheild wall isnt good, i have XGMD and i use hoplites in it, but i neaver use the sheild wall, its just not good Better to stick with alexander

[Saint_jimmyz]

Ok thanks. Wow, its good to know we have a skilled skinner with us +rep

So Alexander it is then!

We need to decide on a couple of things: Do we include Sicily and the southern tip of italy, and the ionian city states, or just stick to mainland greece?

[jakobh94]

Since Athenian campaigned on Sicily... I say we include those parts.