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    I'm very pleased to see both candidates acting more civil and respectful to each other than the previous candidates did in the last two presidential elections. Chris

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    Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. greets supporter...
    2 hours ago, 10-10-08
    Loading... Must Read?Thank YouYes 322LAKEVILLE, Minn. — The anger is getting
    raw at Republican rallies and John McCain is acting to tamp it down.
    McCain was booed by his own supporters Friday when, in an abrupt switch from
    raising questions about Barack Obama's character, he described the Democrat as a
    "decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of
    the United States."
    A sense of grievance spilling into rage has gripped some GOP events this week as
    McCain supporters see his presidential campaign lag against Obama. Some in the
    audience are making it personal, against the Democrat. Shouts of "traitor,"
    "terrorist," "treason," "liar," and even "off with his head" have rung from the
    crowd at McCain and Sarah Palin rallies, and gone unchallenged by them.
    McCain changed his tone Friday when supporters at a town hall pressed him to be
    rougher on Obama. A voter said, "The people here in Minnesota want to see a real
    fight." Another said Obama would lead the U.S. into socialism. Another said he
    did not want his unborn child raised in a country led by Obama.
    "If you want a fight, we will fight," McCain said. "But we will be respectful. I
    admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments." When people booed, he cut them off.
    "I don't mean that has to reduce your ferocity," he said. "I just mean to say
    you have to be respectful."
    Presidential candidates are accustomed to raucous rallies this close to Election
    Day and welcome the enthusiasm. But they are also traditionally monitors of
    sorts from the stage. Part of their job is to leaven proceedings if tempers run
    ragged and to rein in an out-of-bounds comment from the crowd.
    Not so much this week, at GOP rallies in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and
    other states.
    When a visibly angry McCain supporter in Waukesha, Wis., on Thursday told the
    candidate "I'm really mad" because of "socialists taking over the country,"
    McCain stoked the sentiment. "I think I got the message," he said. "The
    gentleman is right." He went on to talk about Democrats in control of Congress.
    On Friday, McCain rejected the bait.
    "I don't trust Obama," a woman said. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."
    McCain shook his head in disagreement, and said:
    "No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, citizenthat I just happen to have
    disagreements with (him) on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is
    all about."
    He had drawn boos with his comment: "I have to tell you, he is a decent person
    and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United
    States."
    The anti-Obama taunts and jeers are noticeably louder when McCain appears with
    Palin, a big draw for GOP social conservatives. She accused Obama this week of
    "palling around with terrorists" because of his past, loose association with a
    1960s radical. If less directly, McCain, too, has sought to exploit Obama's
    Chicago neighborhood ties to William Ayers, while trying simultaneously to steer
    voters' attention to his plans for the financial crisis.
    The Alaska governor did not campaign with McCain on Friday, and his rally in La
    Crosse, Wis., earlier Friday was much more subdued than those when the two
    campaigned together. Still, one woman shouted "traitor" when McCain told voters
    Obama would raise their taxes.
    Volunteers worked up chants from the crowd of "U.S.A." and "John McCain, John
    McCain," in an apparent attempt to drown out boos and other displays of negative
    energy.
    The Secret Service confirmed Friday that it had investigated an episode reported
    in The Washington Post in which someone in Palin's crowd in Clearwater, Fla.,
    shouted "kill him," on Monday, meaning Obama. There was "no indication that
    there was anything directed at Obama," Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told
    AP. "We looked into it because we always operate in an atmosphere of an
    abundance of caution."
    Palin, at a fundraiser in Ohio on Friday, told supporters "it's not negative and
    it's not mean-spirited" to scrutinize Obama's iffy associations.
    But Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at
    the University of Pennsylvania an author of 15 books on politics, says the
    vitriol has been encouraged by inflammatory words from the stage.
    "Red-meat rhetoric elicits emotional responses in those already disposed by ads
    using words such as 'dangerous' 'dishonorable' and 'risky' to believe that the
    country would be endangered by election of the opposing candidate," she said.
    ___
    Beth Fouhy reported from New York. Associated Press writer Joe Milicia
    contributed to this story from Cleveland.
    Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
    be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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    Maybe even McCain is scared of McCain supporters. I can't imagine how he wouldn't be, but still.


    EDIT: To any McCain supporters reading this . . . I'm just kidding. Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!

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    McCain did the right thing, even if it's not popular among some hateful conservatives. You can't allow that to happen.
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    Glad to see McCain to the right thing. Sad to see he has to.

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    Its really good to see McCain actingly honourably even though he will probably lose the election. I have gained a lot of respect for him.

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    I for one am very happy with the two candidates selected to run this cycle. It really is a win-win for the American people IMHO. Two smart, well meaning, bi-partisan politicians. I mean we easily could have had a Hillary vs. Rudy election. Think about that one for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    I for one am very happy with the two candidates selected to run this cycle. It really is a win-win for the American people IMHO. Two smart, well meaning, bi-partisan politicians. I mean we easily could have had a Hillary vs. Rudy election. Think about that one for a while.
    My thoughts exactly. I also think that the caliber of McCain's character is evident in the way he responded to that remark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    I for one am very happy with the two candidates selected to run this cycle. It really is a win-win for the American people IMHO. Two smart, well meaning, bi-partisan politicians. I mean we easily could have had a Hillary vs. Rudy election. Think about that one for a while.
    Yes. And both candidates have said the other candidate is worthy, intelligent, and has some good ideas, but of course they do not agree on all points.

    Too bad McCain wasn't the Republican candidate 8-years ago as so many people wished.

    I don't like either of the VP candidate choices though.

    Good thing Hilary lost.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icefrisco View Post
    Its really good to see McCain actingly honourably even though he will probably lose the election. I have gained a lot of respect for him.
    ....? Palin and McCain spend the week inciting the crowds, and now he attempts to deflect criticism by sorta defending Obama and out of this you've gained "a lot" of respect for him, how does that work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    ....? Palin and McCain spend the week inciting the crowds, and now he attempts to deflect criticism by sorta defending Obama and out of this you've gained "a lot" of respect for him, how does that work?
    Remember, both candidates say what they have been told to say by their campaign and/advisors.

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    Remember, both candidates say what they have been told to say by their campaign and/advisors.
    I would say, at least in this case, it has more to do with the increasingly chaotic nature of McCain's campaign, one in which he can't stay on message.
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    Poor McCain...I mean that honestly, I've said elsewhere that I've really respected him in the past. It must really tear at him to have to court the religious retard sort of vote. I'm just looking forward to this stupid campaign to be over, honestly.

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    I actually wouldn't have minded Hilary winning, but I know I'm probably alone on that one.

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    I actually wouldn't have minded Hilary winning, but I know I'm probably alone on that one
    I don't know, there might be a few other militant lesbians on the forums. There were screaming women in RTW, they had to appeal to some demographic.

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    eh nevermind....

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    I don't know, there might be a few other militant lesbians on the forums. There were screaming women in RTW, they had to appeal to some demographic.
    Wow. Just wow. I hope that was a joke.

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    It was

    /shudders at Hilary/Rudy

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    Good. I hope I don't come off as a radical lesbian. I'm not even a woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter View Post
    Good. I hope I don't come off as a radical lesbian. I'm not even a woman
    Well I mean, you did say:

    I actually wouldn't have minded Hilary winning
    :hmmm:

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    No no I think one or two guys actually supported Hillary. Go back over footage of her campaign, we're in there, somewhere.

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