Welcome to Saudi Britain...

[CrayonVonCaesar]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4749183.ece

How do you feel about this?

[Markas]

Oh christ not this again... sorry I mean oh Mohammed not this again.

[Erik]

Oh christ not this again... sorry I mean oh Mohammed not this again.

My thoughts exactly.

I only watched .5 sec of this video but I know exactly how it will go.

Somebody should kill that guy and take him out of his misery.

[CrayonVonCaesar]

My thoughts exactly.
I only watched .5 sec of this video but I know exactly how it will go.
Somebody should kill that guy and take him out of his misery.

What a bright informed comment.

[Markas]

What a bright informed comment.

If you were bright and informed you'd know that both Pat condell and the whole Sharia Law issues have been debated in considerable depth in the Political mudpit. This is simply going over very recent ground.

[Treize]

My thoughts exactly.

I only watched .5 sec of this video but I know exactly how it will go.

Somebody should kill that guy and take him out of his misery.

Are you muslim or something?
Or wouter bos fan??

[Erik]

Are you muslim or something?
Or wouter bos fan??

Uhm no, neither.....Wouter Bos fan??

[LSJ]

People being pressured into going by sharia law is inevitable and that is why I oppose it. But I'm not into the whole idea of "omg muslims are taking over europe". Because its not true.

A lot of immigration occurs because of the poor conditions of north African, SE Asian, and middle eastern nations, and as those nations develop less immigrants will come over. And of the Muslims in Europe, the number becoming atheists and losing their religion is growing, as it is with other religions, especially Christianity - more and more people follow religions in name only. No church, no worship, only celebrating Christmas and Easter in their corrupted forms. Also we must acknowledge the slowing emigration of Europeans to the Americas.

And most importantly, if you oppose sharia invasions into law, then do something about it. The Muslims are a minority that are currently underrepresented in Europe, so using logic it would be easy to prevent and such laws from taking hold. These issues occur because people like the man in the video waste time making videos rather than writing to their representatives and gathering support for protests and petitions, so the over-sensitive wackos who introduce these laws have more power than they should.

Saudi Britain will only occur because everyone is too lazy to voice their opinion or take action, so the minority who support these moves take over. The majority never approved of anything like this - they may even be against it. But they won't achieve anything by doing nothing.

[wwsd]

Are you muslim or something?
Or wouter bos fan??

I'm ashamed to see such ignorance from another Dutch person. For those who don't know: Wouter Bos is the Minister of Finance. He deals with stuff like the financial crisis. But he is also a leader of the Labour Party, and a vice-premier in the Labour/Christian government. A vocal group of ignorant racists on the internet think that this moderately conservative government is 'soft on muslims', especially Labour. Wouter Bos is a member of Labour, ergo, he must be a quisling who is selling our country out to the scary brown people, who will soon be running through the lands, hacking people's heads off with scimitars...

In the minds of racists, you must be a 'muslim appeaser' (or 'Wouter Bos fan', apparently, haven't heard that one yet) if you dare to suggest that most muslims are humans, or that fundamentalist governments like Saudi Arabia (major US ally, by the way) are doing more damage to muslims than benefit.

Anyway, the 'Sharia law in Britain' has already been debated to death, apparently. Anyone who still thinks that hands are going to be cut off in ol' England anytime soon is delusional. I don't have much sympathy for nationalism. But I can imagine that someone who really loves Britain would be upset that his country's name is being dragged to the mud as a nation of 'appeasers' out of political opportunism.

[Heinz Guderian]

NO! to sharia law in Britain. i like my hands, dont cut them off fundies! I dont really understand the ins and outs of this subject, but what i do know is i dont have an education, but words like "Saudi" and "Britain" make me upset. I hope to transfer this upset-ness to others, who may similarly not have an education. And together we can be angry about it.

[Sven788]

I'm ashamed to see such ignorance from another Dutch person. For those who don't know: Wouter Bos is the Minister of Finance. He deals with stuff like the financial crisis. But he is also a leader of the Labour Party, and a vice-premier in the Labour/Christian government. A vocal group of ignorant racists on the internet think that this moderately conservative government is 'soft on muslims', especially Labour. Wouter Bos is a member of Labour, ergo, he must be a quisling who is selling our country out to the scary brown people, who will soon be running through the lands, hacking people's heads off with scimitars...

I am ashamed to see such ignorance from another Dutch person. One that doesn't see the threat of Islam, one that wants to be friends even if that means giving up your own culture.
You made me laugh with moderately conservative government is soft on muslims. This government is so soft on muslims remember Gouda? This government prefers to keep the peace and no violence over defending your own culture and people. This government isn't even close to conservative too much leftism. They will feel it in the next election the people want right-wing, just look at the polls.

Islam Will Dominate the World.

So will western nukes....

[Eric]

God, does no one understand how Sharia Courts work? They are there as an option for those Muslims who wish to follow their religious laws and have their legal matters treated by their religious laws. And as I understand it, these Sharia Courts operate on a more moderate version of Islam. I.E: If you someone steals from you, this court won't cut off his hand, they can't order people to be beheaded, etc. They do not breach human rights like the more extremist Islamic law in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc, do. I see no problem, really. In it's moderate form, Islam is not so different from Judaism or Christianity. I've met and befriended many moderate Muslims here in Canada, they are decent people. They were not sexist, or anti-Semitic, their women either wore a hijab (a veil that just surrounds the head, and does not conceal her face) or no veil at all. They were certainly not the fundamentalist wackjobs that the extremists like the Taliban are.

[Carach]

God, does no one understand how Sharia Courts work? They are there as an option for those Muslims who wish to follow their religious laws and have their legal matters treated by their religious laws.

which have no place in a country which is traditionally christian (or, to be more accurate today, indiscriminate) and one which already has a perfectly good legal system to use.

The law is for all to obey, not selective groups.

[mongrel]

which have no place in a country which is traditionally christian (or, to be more accurate today, indiscriminate) and one which already has a perfectly good legal system to use.

The law is for all to obey, not selective groups.

Read my post with gave a link to the relevant law. Mr Condell was repeating a myth. Applies to anyone who can't pay attention.

People being pressured into going by sharia law is inevitable and that is why I oppose it. But I'm not into the whole idea of "omg muslims are taking over europe". Because its not true.

A lot of immigration occurs because of the poor conditions of north African, SE Asian, and middle eastern nations, and as those nations develop less immigrants will come over. And of the Muslims in Europe, the number becoming atheists and losing their religion is growing, as it is with other religions, especially Christianity - more and more people follow religions in name only. No church, no worship, only celebrating Christmas and Easter in their corrupted forms. Also we must acknowledge the slowing emigration of Europeans to the Americas.

And most importantly, if you oppose sharia invasions into law, then do something about it. The Muslims are a minority that are currently underrepresented in Europe, so using logic it would be easy to prevent and such laws from taking hold. These issues occur because people like the man in the video waste time making videos rather than writing to their representatives and gathering support for protests and petitions, so the over-sensitive wackos who introduce these laws have more power than they should.

Saudi Britain will only occur because everyone is too lazy to voice their opinion or take action, so the minority who support these moves take over. The majority never approved of anything like this - they may even be against it. But they won't achieve anything by doing nothing.

You too. The man is wasting his time because he is wrong, unless his intention was to make gullible people spout out about stuff they know nothing about.

How can someone oppose something that does not exist? Again pay attention and read the 1996 Arbitration Act. You will not find one reference to Islam or any other religion in there.

[Каие]

which have no place in a country which is traditionally christian (or, to be more accurate today, indiscriminate) and one which already has a perfectly good legal system to use.

The law is for all to obey, not selective groups.

Carach I never thought you wouldn't understand the law, take a read through the original Sharia courts thread...and all will be answered. It's all been simply twisted for effect, on the part of the tabloids. Nothing new.

So will western nukes....

There are far far more Eastern Nukes then Western ones...
India, Pakistan, N.Korea, China, Russia, Israel....
UK, USA, France...

[Carach]

Carach I never thought you wouldn't understand the law, take a read through the original Sharia courts thread...and all will be answered. It's all been simply twisted for effect, on the part of the tabloids. Nothing new.

my post was simply a general view on the issue of having multiple law systems and courts in a country where it isnt necessary at all.

[mongrel]

my post was simply a general view on the issue of having multiple law systems and courts in a country where it isnt necessary at all.

Well you will know by now that that is not the case. In fact any thread on this issue needs screening before comment, such is the poor level of research made before posting.

[Каие]

my post was simply a general view on the issue of having multiple law systems and courts in a country where it isnt necessary at all.

That;s exactly my point...there are no multiple court systems...unless you also have a problem with a employment tribunals etc. and there has always been multiple legal systems in this country.

But I do not agree with Sharia in Britain or courts, thankfully they don't exist.

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Well come Vampire,...but he is right...a bomb here ,a bomb there...and the world will fall...

Awww...match made in heaven for you two. Imagine your kids...

*shudders. Cocks pistol. Is alert.

[Sven788]

There are far far more Eastern Nukes then Western ones...
India, Pakistan, N.Korea, China, Russia, Israel....
UK, USA, France...

Hmm maybe but it wouldn't differ that much also there is a big difference in quality West got better!

[Eric]

And one more thing, the moderate Muslims that I met represent the majority of Muslims. They are not all like the Taliban. Just like not all Christians are like the Westboro Baptist Church. These Muslins certainly did not regard me, the Anglican Christian, as an 'infidel'. In fact, they even told me that the Muslims revere Jesus Christ (Isa abd-Allāh in Arabic) as a Prophet, a messenger for God, and the messiah sent to the Children of Israel, to guide them with a new scripture, the Injil, or as we know it, Gospel. They even believe that Jesus was a precursor to Muhammad, and foretold the latter's coming. They even believe that it will be Jesus that returns to the Earth on Judgement Day and defeats the False Messiah. The similarities between the Abrahamic religions are quite interesting, can be quite surprising.

Shalom
Salaam
Peace be with you
-Eric