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    Hey All,

    If you're like me your not a fan of John Mccain...but youve resigned yourself to support him becuae you know how utterly horrible Obama would be....

    And if youre like me you are getting more and more frustrated with How McCain (and his advisors/campaign management) are doing everything in their power to just piss away this election..,

    I dont like McCain.... honestly I cant stand him.... if he wasnt forced down my throat I would never vote for him... but as Im stuck... I will hold my nose and do it..

    But I mean.. HOW can this man be that unbelievably stupid... Its like he doesnt care.... or maybe he actually wants Obama to win...

    McCain refuses to fight effectively.... he wont attack Obama on the real charecter issues... Becuase he doesnt want to come off as a racist... He panders to the Moderates and the Democrats becuase he has the flawed perception that thats who determines this election... what McCain needs to do is to show some glimmer of actual conservatism and maybe not make it such a reprehensibile idea to vote for him. Another thing that might help is to stop bieng a goddam hypocritical politican... He went on a whole vocal campaign about rejecting any bill that has unnessary pork..well then WHY did he support the bail out bill... (I dont like that at all...but thats for another day) This bill was filled with hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of unnecessary spending/earmarks.... If McCain were to actually stand up for what he claims to he should have stood up and said "No.... I refuse to support this its full of crap" [Republicans werent even needed democrats had total control and didnt need one Republican vote...] his No would have been symbolic and might have actually made a point he could use against Obama....

    Then you have McCain abandoning Michigan... What the hell.... just becuase there is a good chance Michigan will go to Obama... Michigan isnt 100 percent blue.... things CAN happen in 27 days..... But more importantly it sends a message that McCain isnt willing to fight for your votes..if he doesnt already have them...screw you.....

    And Im a McCain supporter...

    This Election needs to be cancelled.... I dont want 4 more years of Bush.. but can you believe one of these two men will actually be running this country...God help us all
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    I'll run yer country, just fix it so the whole US govt can be run thru a HoI2 style interface and we'll be of okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Life is Rubbish View Post
    I'll run yer country, just fix it so the whole US govt can be run thru a HoI2 style interface and we'll be of okay?
    Interesting - I was thinking a "video game" approach is what may have caused the problems in the first place.

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    I agree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oglethorpe1983 View Post
    Hey All,

    If you're like me your not a fan of John Mccain...but youve resigned yourself to support him becuae you know how utterly horrible Obama would be....

    And if youre like me you are getting more and more frustrated with How McCain (and his advisors/campaign management) are doing everything in there power to just piss away this election..,

    I dont like McCain.... honestly I cant stand him.... if he wasnt forced down my throat I would never vote for him... but as Im stuck... I will hold my nose and do it..

    But I mean.. HOW can this man be that unbelievably stupid... Its like he doesnt care.... or maybe he actually wants Obama to win...

    McCain refuses to fight effectively.... he wont attack Obama on the real charecter issues... Becuase he doesnt want to come off as a racist... He panders to the Moderates and the Democrats becuase he has the flawed perception that thats who determine this election... what McCain needs to do is to show some glimmer of actual conservatism and maybe not make it such a reprehensibile idea to vote for him. Another thig that mught help is to stop bieng a goddam hypocritical politican... He went on a whole vocal campaign about rejecting any bill that has unnessary pork..well then WHY did he support the bail out bill... (I dont like that at all...but thats for another day) This bill was filled with hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of unnecessary spending/earmarks.... If McCain were to actually stand up for what he claims to he should have stood up and said "No.... I refuse to support this its full of crap" [Republicans werent even needed democrats had total control and didnt need one Republican vote... his No would have been symbolic and might have actually made a point he could use against Obama....

    Then you have McCain abandoning Michigan... What the hell.... just becuase there is a good chance Michigan will go to Obama... Michigan isnt 100 percent blue.... things CAN happen in 27 days..... But more importantly it sends a message that McCain isnt willing to fight for your votes..if he doesnt already have them...screw you.....

    And Im a McCain supporter...

    This Election needs to be cancelled.... I dont want 4 more years of Bush.. but can you believe one of these two men will actually be running this country...God help us all
    Like you said, the election is 27 days away. That's a whole lot of time when it comes to politics.

    McCain doesn't want to get down and dirty with the character issues that Obama has. Although Palin has no such qualms, as she demonstrated this past weekend.

    If she keeps hammering away at Obama and continues to highlight the connection between the left wing terrorist Ayers, and Obama, you might start see McCain creep up in the polls.

    Lets face it. Most people don't really start paying attention until the last couple of weeks of an election, and the more they hear about Obamas buddies, the more they will question his judgment and whether they want someone who associates with far leftist radicals in the White house.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Like you said, the election is 27 days away. That's a whole lot of time when it comes to politics.

    McCain doesn't want to get down and dirty with the character issues that Obama has. Although Palin has no such qualms, as she demonstrated this past weekend.

    If she keeps hammering away at Obama and continues to highlight the connection between the left wing terrorist Ayers, and Obama, you might start see McCain creep up in the polls.

    I still don't know who I am voting for because I simply haven't heard anything yet that would steer me towards either guy. I'm not hearing anything about the issues I care about that make me happy. Given the circumstances, I think both men will be learning and adjusting on the job, regardless of experience. And Campaign promises will simply not be realistic courses of action once they sit down and take a big bite out of the problems.

    The thing is, the more I hear Palin, the more I just cannot take her seriously. I had read an article about her earlier in the year and thought, wow, a politician who actually stands by her beliefs. However now, I just cannot stand her, and haven't been impressed with her since that article.

    So in the end, I think the more she talks, the more harm it does to the campaign. I thought it was a very interesting pick, but it seems disastrous now.

    The whole Ayers things is weak. Real weak. If they wanted to truly jump on Obama and the perceived character issues he has that people like yourself see, they would have done so long ago.

    If all they have is Ayers, then they are screwed. Its been out for awhile, and the voters have shown in polls that it just isn't an issue. If McCain wants to jump in the polls and win this thing, he needs to drop the company line and have a great showing in a debate. He needs to come at us with a completely different style. Dragging Obama through the mud simply wont do much with independents because those independents like myself, simply don't like Palin. In the end it evens out, or even comes out in favor of Obama as far as I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post

    If all they have is Ayers, then they are screwed. Its been out for awhile, and the voters have shown in polls that it just isn't an issue. If McCain wants to jump in the polls and win this thing, he needs to drop the company line and have a great showing in a debate. He needs to come at us with a completely different style. Dragging Obama through the mud simply wont do much with independents because those independents like myself, simply don't like Palin. In the end it evens out, or even comes out in favor of Obama as far as I can tell.
    It's not just Ayers. It's Reverend Wright. Its his association with ACORN.

    It calls into question Obama's judgment in getting involved with these far left radical people and groups. How can someone as out there politically as Obama possibly bring this country together?

    IMO McCain has a much better chance of achieving unity and has proven it over his career.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    IMO McCain has a much better chance of achieving unity and has proven it over his career.
    But he has a worse chance of winning the election which is what this topic is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    It's not just Ayers. It's Reverend Wright. Its his association with ACORN.

    It calls into question Obama's judgment in getting involved with these far left radical people and groups. How can someone as out there politically as Obama possibly bring this country together?

    IMO McCain has a much better chance of achieving unity and has proven it over his career.
    Right because issues like abortion, gun-controll, taxes, gay rights et cetera are obviously trivial.

    There are no politicians with even a hint of principle who can bring people together on those and other issues. You're either for or against and consequently so is half the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    I still don't know who I am voting for because I simply haven't heard anything yet that would steer me towards either guy. I'm not hearing anything about the issues I care about that make me happy. Given the circumstances, I think both men will be learning and adjusting on the job, regardless of experience. And Campaign promises will simply not be realistic courses of action once they sit down and take a big bite out of the problems.

    The thing is, the more I hear Palin, the more I just cannot take her seriously. I had read an article about her earlier in the year and thought, wow, a politician who actually stands by her beliefs. However now, I just cannot stand her, and haven't been impressed with her since that article.

    So in the end, I think the more she talks, the more harm it does to the campaign. I thought it was a very interesting pick, but it seems disastrous now.

    The whole Ayers things is weak. Real weak. If they wanted to truly jump on Obama and the perceived character issues he has that people like yourself see, they would have done so long ago.

    If all they have is Ayers, then they are screwed. Its been out for awhile, and the voters have shown in polls that it just isn't an issue. If McCain wants to jump in the polls and win this thing, he needs to drop the company line and have a great showing in a debate. He needs to come at us with a completely different style. Dragging Obama through the mud simply wont do much with independents because those independents like myself, simply don't like Palin. In the end it evens out, or even comes out in favor of Obama as far as I can tell.

    Just ignore all the rhetoric and look at each man compared to the other, and which one would you rather have leading us into the future? Someone whose life event and focus is on things that happened over 40 years ago? Or someone who has laid out very clearly what his plan is for the future and the challenges America and the world faces.

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    But most of the **** about Obama is not true.

    McCain challenges Obama on issues of character because he can't win on the issues. Also, did you see him refer to people as "My fellow Prisoners" just recently? The man is unhinged!

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    Whats not true?

    McCain had a slip of the tongue. Obama has had plenty of those as well.


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    Obama says my muslim faith and its because all the republicans attack him on his faith. Mccain says my fellow prisoners he is a demented old fool. I really believe Mccain wants whats best for America he just seems to trust other politicians lobbyists too much he really wants everybody to just get along... But in this campaign he has taken way too many nonconservatives and bush people as advisors you can see where he takes over his campaign like the Palin pick or postponing the convention but he seems to let a bunch of total losers take over. The 47th reason why we should have taken Romney he has his own nonwashington conservative staff.

    Don't get me wrong I love old fashioned straight up attack politics but not omnus sounding women saying 'Barack Obama wrong for America' Not only are a lot of the charges not entirely true but even I could find better attacks on Obama then them!


    I would absolutely love took the lot of em and just said your fired but in the words of the song "dream on"...
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    I'll take the friend of an domestic "terrorist" over a vice president with the mentality of someone who lived before the invention of the light bulb. Doesn't help that the simple-minded dunce is the the running mate of the Crypt Keeper either.
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    If I was American I'd vote for Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    If I was American I'd vote for Ron Paul.
    How'd that go for him?
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    America is doomed.....nOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Whats not true?
    The whole terrorist connection thing?


    The low level of campaign in the US is really appaling to see eacht time. I get the idea they spend more time looking and inventing dirt on the other (certainly in the republican camp) then actual trying to convince people with arguments.

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    Yep. But I'm biased and see everything from only one point of view.

    I'm going to go cleanse myself of negative memories of Obama now.

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    If McCain has nothing to say on the economy, it's game over because nothing else matters I would have thought.

    BTW is Laura Bush a Muslim?

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