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    here are so many religions- which one is true? how are we suppose to dcide? I mean, we can always be wrong! no matter which religion you believe in, you will might go to hell!
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    You have to choose the one which rings true to your heart. Then every way is the same, if you thread it honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    You have to choose the one which rings true to your heart. Then every way is the same, if you thread it honestly.
    but if you are wrong? god is confusing
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius
    Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orko View Post
    here are so many religions- which one is true? how are we suppose to dcide? I mean, we can always be wrong! no matter which religion you believe in, you will might go to hell!

    Atheism. Not only is everyone else wrong, but there are no side effects like hell or reincarnation as a worm either.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    Atheism. Not only is everyone else wrong, but there are no side effects like hell or reincarnation as a worm either.
    i myself am an atheist but what you are saying is ignorant. just because you believe in a religion doesnt make it true, look at every religion and you will know that!

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    I am a christain, and a sinner, I would go to hell if it were not for Christ......read the bible, pray to god, ask him to open your heart, and you shall find eternal peace. Copper nickers: sorry, but not believing in hell wont bother the devil when he is torturing you. just like not believing in terrorists would not stop one from killing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of virtue and valor View Post
    I am a christain, and a sinner, I would go to hell if it were not for Christ......read the bible, pray to god, ask him to open your heart, and you shall find eternal peace. Copper nickers: sorry, but not believing in hell wont bother the devil when he is torturing you. just like not believing in terrorists would not stop one from killing you.
    there are also good for Islam, Judaism and the FSM. and why would we go to hell if there was no Christ? it sounds like simply saying: wer'e good and right. why? because that is the way it is. you should thank us cause we are so rightous.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius
    Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of virtue and valor View Post
    I am a christain, and a sinner, I would go to hell if it were not for Christ......read the bible, pray to god, ask him to open your heart, and you shall find eternal peace. Copper nickers: sorry, but not believing in hell wont bother the devil when he is torturing you. just like not believing in terrorists would not stop one from killing you.

    Yeah but wasting your life fearing hell and having no fun will be a of a thing when you die and rot like everyone else won't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of virtue and valor View Post
    I am a christain, and a sinner, I would go to hell if it were not for Christ......read the bible, pray to god, ask him to open your heart, and you shall find eternal peace. Copper nickers: sorry, but not believing in hell wont bother the devil when he is torturing you. just like not believing in terrorists would not stop one from killing you.
    This is why I am athiest ladies and gentlemen.........

    orko - Just pick what you feel is right, i chose atheism because i think that religions are out dated fairy tales. If you want then you can always play Pascals Wager.
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    oh it just happened......how did this machine get done? (looks at NASA spaceship) doh.....well I wanna have fun, so it just happened! and I am as bad as any of you, were all sinners, Christ is our escape, not our punishment. its like if you were about to fall off a cliff, but some one wanted to help you, he cant help you unless you take his hand, its as simple as that! and my spirit will go to heaven, my body will rot.
    "WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our lands like the sands of winter, never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy, fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities...they will know: Helghan belongs to the Helghast." -Scholar Visari

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of virtue and valor View Post
    oh it just happened......how did this machine get done? (looks at NASA spaceship) doh.....well I wanna have fun, so it just happened! and I am as bad as any of you, were all sinners, Christ is our escape, not our punishment. its like if you were about to fall off a cliff, but some one wanted to help you, he cant help you unless you take his hand, its as simple as that! and my spirit will go to heaven, my body will rot.
    But why Christ? What is so special about him? Why cant Zeus or Thor or Easta, Vishnu, Allah, Brahman, Ares, Jupiter etc etc save us from this eternal damnation? If they cant then by your belief 70% of the world will go to hell.
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    Why does the devil want to torture us, as we do not believe in God; he should ally with us sinners and make an army of us.

    Hell makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrebound View Post
    Why does the devil want to torture us, as we do not believe in God; he should ally with us sinners and make an army of us.

    Hell makes no sense.
    Hell as a concept was added relatively late to Judaism, IIRC. It wasn't originally conceived as a place of fire and suffering, but as a place devoid of God; eternal separation from the Creator.

    The "fire and brimstone" bit was probably added by early Christians
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight of virtue and valor View Post
    oh it just happened......how did this machine get done? (looks at NASA spaceship) doh.....well I wanna have fun, so it just happened! and I am as bad as any of you, were all sinners, Christ is our escape, not our punishment. its like if you were about to fall off a cliff, but some one wanted to help you, he cant help you unless you take his hand, its as simple as that! and my spirit will go to heaven, my body will rot.
    then what about all the people who died before christ? what about sinners, who were on the way to church to repent their sins and confess, and then got hit by a truck? do they go to hell?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius
    Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

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    Flying Spaghetti Monster?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansDuet View Post
    Flying Spaghetti Monster?

    I prefer IPU since the Monster is too scary and his priests may end up being cruel and evil bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciabhan View Post
    I prefer IPU since the Monster is too scary and his priests may end up being cruel and evil bastards.
    But first Pastafarians were pirates and FSM created world after drinking heavily.

    Sounds cool.

    And in heaven there is beer and strippers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansDuet View Post
    But first Pastafarians were pirates and FSM created world after drinking heavily.

    Sounds cool.

    And in heaven there is beer and strippers.

    I will convert as long as you promise me that heaven also has apple jack, whiskey, and mead.

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    I am not sure as drunken ways of FSM are mysterious indeed.

    From wiki:
    "The central belief is that there is an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster, who created the entire universe "after drinking heavily."[13] The Monster's intoxication was supposedly the cause for a flawed earth. All evidence for evolution was planted by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, in an effort to test Pastafarians' faith — a form of the Omphalos hypothesis. When scientific measurements, such as radiocarbon dating, are made, the Flying Spaghetti Monster "is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage."[3]
    The Pastafarian belief of heaven stresses that it contains beer volcanoes and a stripper factory.[25] Hell is similar, except that the beer is stale, and the strippers have VD.[26]"

    Also:
    http://www.venganza.org/


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansDuet View Post
    I am not sure as drunken ways of FSM are mysterious indeed.

    From wiki:
    "The central belief is that there is an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster, who created the entire universe "after drinking heavily."[13] The Monster's intoxication was supposedly the cause for a flawed earth. All evidence for evolution was planted by the Flying Spaghetti Monster, in an effort to test Pastafarians' faith — a form of the Omphalos hypothesis. When scientific measurements, such as radiocarbon dating, are made, the Flying Spaghetti Monster "is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage."[3]
    The Pastafarian belief of heaven stresses that it contains beer volcanoes and a stripper factory.[25] Hell is similar, except that the beer is stale, and the strippers have VD.[26]"

    Also:
    http://www.venganza.org/
    Unknown factors should not stop you from declaring yourself the High Muckamuck of the FSM and making all kinds of promises you cannot back up. It never stopped any other Muckamuck from doing so.

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