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    The bannerman use the flag like axe. i like axeman, do you plan to make some axemen in peasants?

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    their was a regiment of halberdiers I believe.
    Cavalry also often had axes, I have even seen a picture of prince rupert mounted and charging with one (and his dog)

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    I've never heard of a 'regiment of halberdiers', but certainly halberds were used when the use of pikes was unsuitable. i wish there was a way to switch pikes with halberds for siege battles, but it's impossible as far as I'm aware.

    The bannerman use the flag like axe. i like axeman, do you plan to make some axemen in peasants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaDelta View Post
    I've never heard of a 'regiment of halberdiers', but certainly halberds were used when the use of pikes was unsuitable. i wish there was a way to switch pikes with halberds for siege battles, but it's impossible as far as I'm aware.



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    I have no clue on modding, but I do wonder if it would be do-able to make halberdier regiments in the place of a siege engine of one sort or the other, and as a town garrison unit with zero move points in the campaign map?

    If this could be done, the attacker could get halbers for taking a wall, and the settlement could have halbers for defending the wall.

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    the earl of essex had a company of halberdiers as his bodyguard,but its not known how long they survived as such.they stood out like a house on fire anyway because,along with the earls regt of foot they had tawny orange coats.the only others who definatly had halberds as a unit were the matrosses who manned the artillery on both sides.

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    The Covenanters also fielded contigents of heavily armoured Halberdiers among their infantry, more frequently than the English. They actually became more common later in the conflict, as experience had proved them valuable not only against cavalry and in sieges but also against Irish and Highlander infantry charges. I'm not sure if they were particularly important in the English interventions though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antagonist View Post
    The Covenanters also fielded contigents of heavily armoured Halberdiers among their infantry, more frequently than the English. They actually became more common later in the conflict, as experience had proved them valuable not only against cavalry and in sieges but also against Irish and Highlander infantry charges. I'm not sure if they were particularly important in the English interventions though.
    yes,your absolutly right,i was only refering to the english contingents.the scots mixed in units of lochaber axmen in with the pike and the royalist scots used them too.the highland contingents in both armys had them also.

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    I have no clue on modding, but I do wonder if it would be do-able to make halberdier regiments in the place of a siege engine of one sort or the other
    You could make a siege engine (i.e a cannon) have a halberdier crew, but you can't set a crew type for siege-buildable engines (i.e ram).

    If this could be done, the attacker could get halbers for taking a wall, and the settlement could have halbers for defending the wall.[/quote]

    and as a town garrison unit with zero move points in the campaign map?
    That's a great idea, but unfortunately there's no way to assign a number movement points to a specific unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dick178 View Post
    The bannerman use the flag like axe. i like axeman, do you plan to make some axemen in peasants?
    If you've ever held one of them, you know a flagstaff is a decent way of knocking some poor unlucky fellow down. It probably won't do permanent damage, but it might knock him out. I was tickled to see this.
    @AlphaDelta: You mean the infantry and cavalry move points are hardcoded? If so, that's a shame. I was thinking that the dragoons should have the same move points as cavalry because they would ride to the battlefield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodotos I View Post
    If you've ever held one of them, you know a flagstaff is a decent way of knocking some poor unlucky fellow down. It probably won't do permanent damage, but it might knock him out. I was tickled to see this.
    @AlphaDelta: You mean the infantry and cavalry move points are hardcoded? If so, that's a shame. I was thinking that the dragoons should have the same move points as cavalry because they would ride to the battlefield.
    I'm a US Civil War reenactor and I one time got the honor of carrying our full regimental flag in a ceremony for one of our regimental commanders who died in an unfortunate accident. That flag was ridiculously heavy, carrying it was honestly just as tasking as fighting on the field in full kit. A regimental would be a bit big for use as a impromptu weapon, but our company flags would be pretty capable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirAndrewD View Post
    I'm a US Civil War reenactor and I one time got the honor of carrying our full regimental flag in a ceremony for one of our regimental commanders who died in an unfortunate accident. That flag was ridiculously heavy, carrying it was honestly just as tasking as fighting on the field in full kit. A regimental would be a bit big for use as a impromptu weapon, but our company flags would be pretty capable.
    the standards used during the civil wars by english regts were six foot six inches square and usually made of silk or taffeta,and not as heavy as you might think.standard bearers were (and still are in ecw reenactment) large strong men,with a definate attitude problem when it came to someone taking the thing off of them.in the real wars you would NEVER fight using the flag itself,the bearer would have a sword.he was usually accompanied by a colour guard.the standard bearer was also expected to "display" the colours to the opposition by flourishing it around his head and throwing it in the air,you can still see something similar today in italy at many of the festivals they have,or at the palio in sienna.ecw standards were (and are) only carried in one hand by the infantry,and sometimes you do forget yourself and wack someone over the head with it,but that is heavily frowned upon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonn View Post
    the standards used during the civil wars by english regts were six foot six inches square and usually made of silk or taffeta,and not as heavy as you might think.standard bearers were (and still are in ecw reenactment) large strong men,with a definate attitude problem when it came to someone taking the thing off of them.in the real wars you would NEVER fight using the flag itself,the bearer would have a sword.he was usually accompanied by a colour guard.the standard bearer was also expected to "display" the colours to the opposition by flourishing it around his head and throwing it in the air,you can still see something similar today in italy at many of the festivals they have,or at the palio in sienna.ecw standards were (and are) only carried in one hand by the infantry,and sometimes you do forget yourself and wack someone over the head with it,but that is heavily frowned upon!
    Oh, our standards in using a flag are pretty high as well. No one EVER uses one as a weapon and trying to take the flag off someone is likely to result in a fist fight. One reenactment I was at a year ago, we had a fresh fish who didn't know any better and he ran for a flag bearer and tried to take his flag, it actually wasn't pretty and ended up in the new guy being shoved into the ground pretty roughly and not at all faked.
    Our company standard isn't that heavy, though as an Junior NCO I have too many responsibilities with line closing and new troopers to get to carry one in battle. I imagine the weight would get to you after a few double quicks.

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