Should Wales replace the Timurids in the main mod?

[Dave Scarface]

Hey guys,

Me and my mod team are considering fully implementing Wales into the main mod (with Surgeons permission). This would mean however that we would need to exclude the Timurids from the grand campaign as we did in the Wales submod. The reason is we are limited and unable to add anymore faction symbols. Therefore we can only replace the Timurids with Wales.

Why must we add Wales into the full mod? Well they are simply a much better faction imo. I've been playing this game since it first came out and only one time did I ever manage to come up against the Timurids. Its pretty similar to the americas. If we ever changed the map and took america out so we could extend the map east (not saying we would). Not many players would complain. Likewise what do the Timurids bring to the game? We already have the mongols, do we really need another mongol like faction that doesn't appear until near the end of the game? Wales on the other hand are way more interesting. And I feel it might be a mistake for them to be in the submod. If anything I feel the Timurids should be relegated to some submod. What is your opinions please? Let us know your thoughts and help us to decide on the mods future.

Dave

[pwf224]

I will withhold my decision as to not influence anyone else as of yet, but so far its a 50-50 split. We need more votes, feedback, suggestions, and ideas. If you support the implementation into a full version, state why. If you do not, please state why you do. We need constructive discussion on this topic since it is a very important one.

[Slanted]

I deffinetly say kick out the timurids and put in the welsh. We already have a large almost invincible army with the mongols but you should have an availible download for those that don't want them in.

[MiiKLL]

I have to agree with Slanted...

I play as the English a lot....its really nice to have another faction in the mix to have to contend with.

[brousell]

keep wales, boot the timurids, would much rather have a well balanced recreated europe, plus I personllay think I've only ever seen them once....

Even without the timurids the middle east is well balanced and changelling enough anyway, all the kingdoms that need to be in it are. For the english campaign you now simply can not pretend that the welsh do not exsist and as the english are such an integral part of europe the implications for leaving out the welsh on the rest of europeans are massive.

Besides the timurids only turn up later, wales is in from the start. Plus dont forget there are still the mongles....

Unfortunately I was unable to vote in the poll(I was too late), but at least you know what I think.

[Dave Scarface]

I will leave this poll open for 1 week (until next friday). Also anyone who cannot vote, post in this thread and I will add your vote to the final count. This vote also means the update I had planned for this week, has now been put back to next weekend (after the vote) sorry.

Dave

[pdp]

I'm not allowed to vote the poll (?), but I'd prefer the Wales to the Timurids.

[pwf224]

I'm not allowed to vote the poll (?), but I'd prefer the Wales to the Timurids.

You need at least 50 posts until you are allowed to vote in polls Your written vote counts just as much though

[brousell]

Tks,

Pwf224,

You need at least 50 posts until you are allowed to vote in polls Your written vote counts just as much though

I did'nt know that, but you have given me another reason to post...

cheers

[BigMac570]

I agree.

Wales would complete the mod. I've never even seem the Timurids.

[Saile1230]

I say boot the timurids.

[doggy]

i say keep the welsh, they're so cutely annoying in my english campaign.

[Dave Scarface]

It is looking like bye bye to the timurids then. I would say it was nice fighting them, but then again I never did except for one vanilla campaign

Dave

[Saxit]

Agreed. I only think I ever saw the Timurids once as well. I usually finish or get bored of my campaigns before they turn up.
I wonder why CA put such an artifical limit on the amount of factions btw.

[doggy]

yeah, not to mention that the timurids were actually mongol descendants.
perhaps you could just simply add their unit tiers to the late mongols?

[pwf224]

I think all the Timurid units' info had to be deleted to make room for the Welsh units. The EDU is full and no more units could be added to anyone's roster We could however (this is just my own idea that I thought up literally 5 seconds ago) script another invasion from the mongols spawning from the baghdad region, but with the horde invasion feature already off balance, this may be too difficult to implement. It might be the only way to appease everyone though if we were to succeed.

[doggy]

We could however (this is just my own idea that I thought up literally 5 seconds ago) script another invasion from the mongols spawning from the baghdad region

pwf224, that's a brilliant idea!

and dave, i prefer the idea that the mongol stays as a horde instead of a 'normal' faction. that way, they are more aggressive and more unpredictable just like they were.

[Userpro]

I'm not contrary to get rid of the Timurids, but contrary to get rid of the last horde invasion faction. In my opinion is a really downgrade. In the case someone never seen an invasion, the date for invasion could be easily changed.
So get rids of Timurids only, if Mongols returning as (a working properly) invasion horde faction.

[vietanh797]

Just one question
in my opinion Portugal is more useless than any other factions(the best they can do is defend themself)
why not kick this faction then keep Timurid?

[Userpro]

in my opinion Portugal is more useless than any other factions

No way man - they are my favorites